Double trouble rigging

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4 feet pieces of HEAVY floro, each crimped to the swivel
Circle hooks crimped to the end of each piece.
Size of circle dependent on bait - sardines = 7/0, macks = 8/0
Floro pieces should be short enough that you can put the hooks in the harness lugs of your reel and pull rig tight without swivel touching your tip guide.
 

Bill W

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I use 250# mono, 9/0 or 10/0 Mustad 39943 BN not ringed but chafing spring installed. Like Eric said adjust the leader length for max without hitting tip top. Double trouble most likely needs a 2 oz egg sinker. Install weight on 1 leg of leader and tooth peg it up high on the leader before crimping that hook. The bigger circle never gets looked at by the fish and gives you better setting and hook shank strength.

You should see the circle I use for flyers, 20/0... Enormous,
 
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Here’s what I’ve done. Again it depends on the bait size. I was told 7/0 or 8/0 hook by a crew member many moons ago. These are 8/0 with 300 pound mono. Or I have used 200 pound flurocarbon. I take about 4 feet of line, put the chafing sleeve on, the the swelve, then a two barrel crimp. I just double the line. Then I crimp the hooks on. If weight is needed I attach an egg sinker above the swelve on the line from the reel. With a single I use a 9/0 or 10/0 Mustad 7691 or 12/0 circle. No ringed hooks needed with the chafing sleeve.
 

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I know if you bring the hooks, and swelves, and ask the crew they will general make a few up for you. If you prefer flurocarbon bring that as well.
Yea, what he said. Every boat has their own preferred way. They would rather do it than have you do it in a way that to them ,is wrong.
 
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Bill W

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I know if you bring the hooks, and swelves, and ask the crew they will general make a few up for you. If you prefer flurocarbon bring that as well.
I know i might have some flak on this but Justin tied a double trouble kite rig on my kite rod that did not have the crimps crimped on my last trip. At least the one hook that came back to the boat after the lost fish. Just be careful... IMO you are better off doing your own work, then you have your self to blame...
 

Steve K

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Never mind...
 
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Bill, Justin on Excel?
Maybe just leave this at “Justin” and not create a situation where the internet gives something a life of its own and all of a sudden someone gets an undeserved reputation. Saying this with all possible respect and courtesy. Don’t take it the wrong way.
 
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Steve K

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Hank, right again. Should use PM more often. I’ll delete that.
 

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Here is one i made up today. The set up is not the normal leader but with the twin no-escape swivel i made it modular. If a shark gets one leg, i replace that leg. I used Jinkai 250# and the material shown and used a Jinkai SC-3C crimping tool. The blow up of the no-escape shows where i used a pair of pliers to tighten the grommet so it will not freely open.
 

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Here is a circle hook i use for flyers. And a second hook needed for a squid.
 
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SouthBayKiller

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Question for you expert riggers, could you rig the double trouble by just forming a loop (with chafe spring) and swivel at the top of the rig and have two tag ends coming out of the crimp, one to each hook? I understand if you double hook 2 fish it would likely fail, but what about the crimp would make one side or the other not work?
 

ifish42na

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View attachment 943367 View attachment 943368 View attachment 943369 View attachment 943370 Here is one i made up today. The set up is not the normal leader but with the twin no-escape swivel i made it modular. If a shark gets one leg, i replace that leg. I used Jinkai 250# and the material shown and used a Jinkai SC-3C crimping tool. The blow up of the no-escape shows where i used a pair of pliers to tighten the grommet so it will not freely open.
Two beautiful points of failure. You can have all of my no escapes, look down, they are on top of the high spot at Hurricane Bank.
 

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Question for you expert riggers, could you rig the double trouble by just forming a loop (with chafe spring) and swivel at the top of the rig and have two tag ends coming out of the crimp, one to each hook? I understand if you double hook 2 fish it would likely fail, but what about the crimp would make one side or the other not work?
That is how you do it normally... Maybe i could hook up 4 baits on my rig and call it crazy quad. (Or crazy Bill’s)
 

Bill W

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But for me they work great, what happened Basil?
 

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They opened up! How many times should I accept failure? One time, that's it. Over and done with Bill, if you want to take pictures of your rigging fine, just make sure you post pictures of your failures. They will happen. Get off this cycle of defending rigging like this, you are better than that.
 

Bill W

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Question for you expert riggers, could you rig the double trouble by just forming a loop (with chafe spring) and swivel at the top of the rig and have two tag ends coming out of the crimp, one to each hook? I understand if you double hook 2 fish it would likely fail, but what about the crimp would make one side or the other not work?
The reason i thought about modular is the loose hook can be used again in case of shark. What i did do before was to retire the leader. Now i can inspect and just replace one leg. Will it work, of course it will. How much extra does it cost? 1 crimp...
 
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Bill W

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They opened up! How many times should I accept failure? One time, that's it. Over and done with Bill, if you want to take pictures of your rigging fine, just make sure you post pictures of your failures. They will happen. Get off this cycle of defending rigging like this, you are better than that.
O.K. Basil but i fixed the problem with them opening up, which i explained. Take a flip side of what you said. I have used them for a long time.