Dead in the water. No FWD shift. XR6

mokahehteh

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Spent the day cruising the fam around Newp, then a speed run outside the CDM reefs, then as soon as we rested at idle, NO FWD gear. She goes into reverse fine, but FWD gear is a NO GO. Feels like something binding when trying to shift into FWD. At least we were able to chill awhile (one hour!), grilling burgers while being towed back through Newport Harbor. Too many boaters laughing their butt off as we flipped paddies while in tow.

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fly liner

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I'd say star simple and check your controls.

If its binding in the controls . check where the cable meets the motor disconnect the cable and try to shift by hand..
 
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I always start with the easiest things first..

In hopes that its nothing major
 
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flyhigh123

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same as other thread, remove throttle shifter and check the cables that connect into it. most likely a screw is loose that holds the shifter cable.
 

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Could be a split in the shift cable housing causing the cable itself to bow outside of the housing when under pressure.
 

mokahehteh

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Okay guys. Thanks for the ideas.

I got a free chunk of time after work today so I popped the cowling to have a look around. Sure enough, the obviously broken piece was staring back at me. I guess it's called an "anchor shift bracket".

Not sure how, but the bracket broke clean in half? Looks like one side was cracked for a while (dirty) and the opposite side broke more recently (clean). Anyone ever see these break like this?

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Ya I had one crack ... I want to say it was on a Johnson 30hp but not positive....

Probably find it on eBay for cheap.

At least its an easy and easily accessible part to replace
 
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Keep the new one lubed.
(the old one seems to have been by the look of your fingers).

Question do you have a loop in your cables in front of your motor.

If not it could be adding stress to the part..

If you do then check the adjustment on the motor end of the cable..

If the throw of the cable is pushing or pulling (depends on the motor) too far or too hard it may be a culprit..

Should be an easy adjustment just look where the cable locks into either the side of the motor or the lower couling (depends on the motor) and there will be a thumb nut of some sort or another and you can turn that for more or less throw.
 
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mokahehteh

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Keep the new one lubed.
(the old one seems to have been by the look of your fingers).

Question do you have a loop in your cables in front of your motor.

If not it could be adding stress to the part..

If you do then check the adjustment on the motor end of the cable..

If the throw of the cable is pushing or pulling (depends on the motor) too far or too hard it may be a culprit..

Should be an easy adjustment just look where the cable locks into either the side of the motor or the lower couling (depends on the motor) and there will be a thumb nut of some sort or another and you can turn that for more or less throw.
Yes, there's a generous strain relief loop in the cables. But the shifter mechanism feels "gritty" ...gonna have to look into that next. I'll remove the cables from the equation to see if I can isolate a smoking gun.

Thanks again Josh!
 

mokahehteh

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Wrenched on the motor and pulled off the broken piece. Easy enough!

Takin the broken bracket to work tomorrow ...my buddy thinks he can weld it back together? If the welding plan doesn't work, I'll order a new piece from the local Merc shop and then buy my buddy lunch :)

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It is a fatigued part. Remove and replace. Now when it does not go into gear you can manually put it into gear to get home..........
 

mokahehteh

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Yep, that's why we'll weld triangular gussets after joining the pieces. There's room for the added geometry and the gussets will distribute stresses over 400% greater area than before. That's a good safety factor. But of course it all depends on how well the piece welds back together first.
 

mokahehteh

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The part is unavailable/not in stock at the local shop. I can order one for about $50+tax. Not as expensive as one would think! But since I have a chance to customize the broken piece, I figure I might as well try it.
 

mokahehteh

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UPDATE. Identified root cause of "gritty shifter" controls... Bearing (find number 20) part number 23-16875 gave up the ghost. If I can find that 2 dollar part locally, I'll be buying a new one and buttoning it up today!

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Looks good.
hopefully it will last the life of the motor.

Its great when you can make or fix a part instead of buying it...

Good job tracking down the culprit.
 
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mokahehteh

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Here's the rest of the story... another plastic "neutral holder" bushing on opposite side was found to be badly worn with an eccentric condition, probably from the other badly worn piece. So I replaced that piece too... No more "gritty feel" and neutral feels silky smoooooth :)

Now the lever repair is complete ...from that standpoint... more to follow soon

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