Crabbing-When Does the Other Shoe Drop?

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  1. Floatflyer

    Floatflyer Hope to Catch a Fish!

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    This good news will enable many of you to catch up on chores around the house instead of being on the water. BUT, keep your asses out of MA 7, 8-1 & 8-2!! We are "almost" in Canada and we don't want your type up here!!! (We can be bribed for the right price.)

    WDFW NEWS RELEASE
    Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
    600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091

    http://wdfw.wa.gov/

    May 10, 2018

    Contact: Bob Sizemore, (360) 302-3030, ext. 303

    Marine areas 11 and 13 will not open for crabbing this summer

    OLYMPIA – The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) today announced that two marine areas in south Puget Sound will not open for crab fishing this summer to allow Dungeness crab populations to rebuild.

    Recreational crab fisheries will remain closed in marine areas 11 (Tacoma/Vashon Island) and 13 (south Puget Sound) this summer. Tribal commercial crab fisheries also will not open in those areas this year.

    State and tribal co-managers are developing crabbing seasons for the rest of Puget Sound and plan to announce those later this month.

    "We are still working on setting crab seasons but wanted to give people early notice about these closures, which is a change from previous years," said Bob Sizemore, Puget Sound shellfish manager for WDFW. Sizemore said the department will continue working to structure fisheries in each Puget Sound region, but he does not anticipate closures similar to those in marine areas 11 and 13.

    The populations of harvestable Dungeness crabs are low in both areas 11 and 13, based on pre-season test fisheries, Sizemore said. Additionally, Dungeness crab harvests have fallen 88 percent in Marine Area 11 and 90 percent in Marine Area 13 since the 2014-15 season. Input from recreational crabbers also indicates support for the closures.

    "We are taking this step to protect crab in these areas and allow the populations to rebuild," Sizemore said.

    Water currents can carry young crab long distances, making it possible for crab larvae from robust populations to settle and grow in areas 11 and 13, Sizemore said. But it can take several years for a newly settled Dungeness crab to grow and reach the minimum harvestable size of 6 ¼ inches.

    A variety of factors could be contributing to the declining population of crab in areas 11 and 13, Sizemore said. These include reduced survival of crab larvae, a higher-than-normal mortality rate for juvenile crab, or changing ocean conditions such as elevated surface water temperatures.

    The department will post Puget Sound recreational seasons on its crab-fishing website at fishing website at https://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/shellfish/crab/, where information on fishing regulations as well as an educational video on crabbing can be found.
     
  2. Swede

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    Completely fucked.
     
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  3. Flying Arima

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    Wow wdfw isn’t sure why the numbers are so low! It isn’t rocket science.
     
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  4. hawksfan75

    hawksfan75 More questions than answers

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    this sucks but at least I know I can save my boat gas and spend it on truck gas this year.

    After how empty my crab cards have been, I support this. As long as it’s truly shut down and not like the bullshit coho fishery the treaty tribes got a couple years ago.
     
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  5. sgwill122

    sgwill122 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    It is weird that crab populations would crash. I thought it was one fishery where we help the population by feeding them and removing competition for food(big males).
     
  6. South Sounder

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    Im actually for this closure in 13 but do not really understand the 11 closure. As someone who almost always has a pot soaking when its open in both areas, I’ve seen a major decrease in 13 where as in 11 in my normal spots it has been surprisingly good year to year.

    Im glad to see for once a agreement has been made and its closed for everyone not just one specific group of tax payers. Sucks to not be able to crab in my neck of the woods but Im ok missing a year or two.
     
  7. LJB

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    Sad but happy the crabbing could not have gotten worse.. After the tribes went 90 thousand lbs over the 60 they were going to take in area 13 in 2013 I believe , the dept approached the tribe with a letter wanting to do a two shut down,, tribes never responded.. That was two years ago...
     
  8. EJ Swanny

    EJ Swanny I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Good, keep it closed for two years (TO ALL) if that what it takes. Once it does re-open, don't let the commies/tribes nuke the area..........

    Only thing that sucks, is now MA10 will be nuked by ALL.....
     
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  9. Mr. Doodles

    Mr. Doodles I'm the BIG Dog

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    Yeah last 2 years has been pretty dismal in all my area 11 spots closed is good...for now... but lets hope it recovers.
     
  10. Chasin' Tail

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    As LBJ said above. MA13 took a major nose dive after the Tribes went full retard and raped the entire Nisqually reach... I call BS on the way the news release says the WDFW doesn't know why it declined. Ive talked to the Bio at WDFW that confirmed the tribal overharvest.

    The only thing they were stumped on, is the fact that after that "incident" they couldn't figure out why the recruitment of juvenile crabs hasn't rebounded at all over the last 3 years.

    Shrimp in 13 wont be far behind. What once was open an entire month, has been reduced to 2 days (4 hours each) after the Tribes started to harvest commercially.
    Based off of results of this years recreational season, it should also be shut down for everyone. It has been wiped clean.
     
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  11. LJB

    LJB Down Fur-Lined Avenue

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    I got a good laugh at that statement also,,
     
  12. Elkfins

    Elkfins Ungrateful Prick

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    Yet they were willing to take the license fees for the Puget sound crab endorsement the whole month of April before this announcement... Hmm.
     
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  13. sgwill122

    sgwill122 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Were no crabs(including females) being caught in 11 and 13 or just no keeper males? If no females then how would overharvesting get rid of the females? They live to be 8-13 years old. If its just the males that are missing then I understand. If both males and females have vanished there has gotta be something in the environment that killed em or caused them to move. I have no doubt overharvesting puts a hurt on them but cant explain the vanishing act.
     
  14. EJ Swanny

    EJ Swanny I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    No keeper males....females were thick, as were rocks. I started resorting to keeping more rocks than I ever did. They were BIG and healthy. Seemed to me they started invading spots I would usually not see rocks. Not the big dungie males to fight them off their territory, I'm guessing...sad, sad, sad...
     
  15. LJB

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    Lots of females as far as males there were very few undersize..
     
  16. Jasongind

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    I got one male keeper and one female (toss back obviously) all summer long. Kept my limit of Rock everytime I went out. Those on the Redondo and Des Moines Piers kept a ton of whatever they pulled up, regardless of size or gender.
     
  17. critterkiller

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    Classic. Just after I bought two new pots at OE. As long as the casino enterprise doesn't fish then I am fine with not crabbing.
     
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  18. Mpizzle

    Mpizzle Bobber down!

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    I truly believe that if you’ve purchased a PS crab endorsement for ‘18 you should be given the option of a refund. This one is pretty jacked.
     
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  19. Area13

    Area13 That's gonna leave a mark!

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    I boat and fish 12 months a year in MA13 and know why there are no fucking crab. The little orange buoys that say SQX i’m always dodging.
    I’m good with the shut down for a few years, dungees are gone, like NONE left. But if it recovers in a few years and we get carpet bombed with little orange buoys like in recent years, what’s the point. These guys need to held accountable like the rest of us.
     
  20. Siv

    Siv I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Crab populations have always been cyclical. Lived / fished area 11 for 25 years and when I first moved here the crabbing was awful, I only ran to 10 for crab. Over the years it got better and better and peaked about 3 years back and started to decline. Last year was really weak. The heavy pressure from the tribes and recs ( if you have been around a while you know how much it has increased over the last 10 years on the rec side ) has just exacerbated the downward trend. Closure probably makes sense..we'll see.
     

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