cow tuna sardine hooks

ny2sd

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which ringed circle hooks are the best for fishing a sardine for cow yellowfin tuna??? Mustard??? Owners??? Eagle claw??? Offset or non offset hook??
 
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It's all preference. West coast guys swear by owner and say mustad is junk while the east coast commercial guys I know fishing 600lb bluefin tell me they only fish mustad.

You'll be able to find someone who claims to have straightened out the hook for any brand.
 

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Ive used gamakatsu super nautilus and owner super mutus. Trokars hd too. Just 2 companies and a subset of eagle claw i trust that has less manufacturing defects and better overall QC. No company is 100% making 1000s of hooks at a time so i trust companies with less failure rates and better QC. Just do a simple pull apart test before fishing. Hooks that weren't tempered correctly will straighten out with little effort. Do a close examination of the braze joint on the rings too any tiny cracks or lines is an incomplete weld which will fail on fish. Try to tighten knots crimps away from this joint sometimes the braze is sharp inside the ring. Its just nice to trust certain companies so you can spend more time fishing instead of testing or worst worrying bout it.
 
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owner and tokar don't use the X system. Mustad does so if your fishing in cow country be sure your using 4X. With owner the super mutu is what you want.
 
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AKSalmon

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I use ringed Owner Super Mutu hooks, in sizes between 4/0 and 6/0 depending on the size of the bait. Super Mutus are the most popular hook on the trips I fish.
 

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I have the Charlie Brown 6/0 too. They’re a much beefier hook than the Mustad 6/0 4x.
 
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Bill W

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I like VMC Dynamic 7360 in 5/0 and 6/0. It is a J hook that does not have cutting edges but still sharp enough to pin a sardine on easy. Called a cone point, very strong hook. Personally fish the hook like a circle. Remember this when fishing cows with a sardine, you do not need the fish to run with the bait. Throw it in gear ASAP.
 

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I have tried Owner, Mustad and Eagle claw circles and they all work fine. The Eagle Claw 2004 black nickel 7/0 hook is what I use the most. Found some great sales a few years ago so I stocked up on 7/0 and 8/0. Owner Super Mutu is the other hook I use in 5/0 size however my last trip we had some small sardines so I was fishing 3/0 mutus and landed tuna up to 93 lbs no problem so I am thinking I will be fishing 3/0-5/0 mutus more if the grade of tuna is 50-100 stuff and save my supers for when the real big ones are around. I have been trying the mustad sea demon circles and they work just as good as the others.

If I had to chose one brand I think it would be the mustad sea demons because they are a bit cheaper than the owners and I like the design of the hook. My buddy fishes Owners exclusively and does just as good.
 
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Cow sardine hook selection is very situational and subjective (personal preference). Hook size, point type, barb size and wire gauge considerations include; bait size, bait condition, hook placement, fish reactivity, line size, fly line or with weight, boat on anchor or drift, sea state, weather, etc...

I typically use Mustad, Owner, Eagle Claw for ringed circle hooks. Offset or straight is irrelevant for me. There are usually trade-offs with any hook selected. I bring many hooks and use what is working for the situation at the moment. Always change it up if something is not being effective. Adaptability is a key to success!

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Cubeye

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I typically use Mustad, Owner, Eagle Claw for ringed circle hooks. Offset or straight is irrelevant.
If a fish swallows a offset circle hook, it's possible the hook will snag before it reaches the corner of it's mouth. With a "straight", it will more easily find the corner. These hooks are REALLY sharp and will snag just about anything before reaching it's destination.

I've even heard of one boat that recommended to "dull" the point a little so that would not happen.

Just my thoughts.
 

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owner and tokar don't use the X system. Mustad does so if your fishing in cow country be sure your using 4X. With owner the super mutu is what you want.
Buck,

I think tokar uses the "whatever man" or possibly the "chill out dude" system. Really just depends on their mood that day.:-)
 

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Dont use this brand of hook... It's one of the brands mentioned by a previous post.
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That can happen to any hook if the point sticks in bone, a hook will bend or break if the hook is in bone, that will not occur with a proper hookset .....the biggest thing for people to learn is to how to properly set a circle hook....most people think they doing it right but most people in fact are lifting their rods when then get bit and the hook does not always rotate into the corner of the jaw.....a good way to break the habit is to keep the fore grip of your rod on the rail till everything is tight and line is coming off the reel against drag...I have been using non offset Eagle Claw 2004's for 20 years never had a hook failure.....I like the wide gap and weight of the wire.....I have caught my share of cows over the years using that hook and technique.....
 
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That can happen to any hook if the point sticks in bone, a hook will bend or break if the hook is in bone, that will not occur with a proper hookset .....the biggest thing for people to learn is to how to properly set a circle hook....most people think they doing it right but most people in fact are lifting their rods when then get bit and the hook does not rotate into the corner of the jaw.....a good way to break the habit is to keep the fore grip of your rod on the rail till everything is tight and line is coming off the reel against drag...I have been using non offset Eagle Claw 2004's for 20 years never had a hook failure.....I like the wide gap and weight of the wire.....I have caught my share of cows over the years using that hook and technique.....
I use the 2004 most often as well. The 8/0 and 9/0 are my favorites for large sardines or similar baits. If I have to go with a small hook but for big fish, then its the super mutu 4/0, ringed and unringed (for bft). For flatfalls at night, the 13/0 ringed 2004 hooks are awesome when bridle rigged (see avatar). But for smaller bft, under 80lb, I use the 3/0 unringed mustad demon circles. Stealthy and strong enough.
 
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I like Eagle Claw hooks. Their Trokar line, while expensive, is a GREAT hook, and I will put it up against any designer hook you want. That said, I still use the old circle hooks, work great, bronze, and black pearl finish. I have a bunch of them, and I'm NOT going to get rid of them. They work great!!!
 

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If there's lots of sharks in the water, I'll use the wire circle hooks. Otherwise it's Super Mutu hooks.

I did hear of the Super Mutus breaking a few times, but that was a long time ago. They have since increased the wire size and I have not heard of any breakages, but I'm sure someone will show a picture of one.

The Eagle Claw 2004 hooks, as I was told, were originally designed for catfish, and they would straighten out more often than the Super Mutus breaking, but after they increased the wire size on their larger hooks, I haven't seen too many, but then again they are not as popular as they used to be.
 
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