Covid IS serious.

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strackle99

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Right, complain about my stats say I’m full of shit then can’t come up with any numbers yourself? Smoooooth 😉
I dont need to look up stats to know your .01 figure is BS. Just the elderly alone make your figure BS.

Own it, bro.
 

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Obesity is a choice. How do you not realize this? Are you part of the 50% obese? So because of their decisions to not lose weight, I have to stay home and wear a mask?

More lib logic at its finest!
No, you have to stay home and wear a mask because of a virus. Not because of obese people, or old people. There are literally thousands of comorbidities

Also, If YOU want a statistic, YOU should look it up. I dont owe you anything, and even with evidence, you still wont believe it.

This is why you are still spouting your .01% crap.

You know it is wrong, but still say it because it helps your story.
 

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No, you have to stay home and wear a mask because of a virus. Not because of obese people, or old people. There are literally thousands of comorbidities

Also, If YOU want a statistic, YOU should look it up. I dont owe you anything, and even with evidence, you still wont believe it.

This is why you are still spouting your .01% crap.

You know it is wrong, but still say it because it helps your story.
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All in this together. Decided to never drive again because I could kill someone. I do believe those with a herpe outbreak or anything else contagious. Should stay home, forever. Their gift to society is staying home

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No one can be turned away from an ER, even those here illegally
Ha.!...had the top 1/3 of my middle finger crushed off completely while working for a friend who had no insurance...went to Torrance memorial and used my obama care silver level insurance to check in.... the doc came in looked at it and said they couldn't help me cause they didn't have a hand specialist...shocked I said ok what do I do..they said with my insurance I had to go to my primary care physician and get a referral for my contracted emergency hospital...shocked I said ok and with blood spurting and bones hanging out I drove to a contract doctors office in long beach and walked in and said I need a referral for emergency ....they were shocked but looked it up and said I had to go to fountain Valley emergency for treatment ....once again in shock I said ok and drove myself to fountain Valley.?.
Went in filled out paperwork and waited a couple minutes and was taken in..
doc came in unwrapped my hand looked at it and said we can't help you here ..
We don't have a hand specialist and you need one....
I asked them what I should do and they said go to harbor medical in LA and they will help you...
By this time i felt beat ....it was like a twilight zone episode as they just wrapped my injury and sent me on my way...
I drove to harbor and gave the lady my ins info and she said I sorry we can't see you....we won't take this insurance..we dont get paid....now I'm beside myself and I tell her what happened at the other hospitals and she said its because of the Obama care.... of course they have hand specialists at those hospitsls... she then said if you can qualify for medi-cal we can help you...
I had made most of my money under the table that year so after waiting a few hours I qualified for medi-cal and was able to be treated...most painful injury ever and didn't stop bleeding for 6 weeks..
2 of the largest hospitals in LA and they both refused to treat me and sent me out the door without a pause..was paying $240 a month for that insurance..
 

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qualify for medi-cal we can help you...
I had made most of my money under the table that year so after waiting a few hours I qualified for medi-cal and was able to be treated...most painful injury ever
You hide income, yet you want free/reduced cost medical care?
 

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I was paying 240$ a month for obamacare...guess reading isn't your strongpoint

which tells me YOU were subsidized

I had the shitty bronze and I paid $500+...silver only would have been about $800...gold over $1000

YOU got the sliver for $240? yep had to be subsidized...
" used my obama care silver level "
 

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But then again, perhaps not. (and I have to say...."peer reviewed" simply does not have the same panache as it once did.....the numerous scandals that have come to light over the last fifteen years have severely/dare I say irreparably tarnished that world).
Interesting how the numbers and findings dovetail so perfectly with what we can see with our own eyes. (hmmm, wasn't there a bible verse along those lines? "They have eyes yet they can not see").
Moving on, I wonder about the accuracy of the testing.
An article published in rt.kom discusses that very thing. But then again; that is a commie-russkie disinformation site, so they could very well be lying about the Portuguese courts and Judges and their findings. You decide.
Dear (Dave) squared,



So Dave2, I think perhaps you have been misled.
 

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30yo died in our neighborhood. Smoker. She went into the hospital for intestinal issues. Fluid build up. Then then throat issues. She died in 4 days. Died of covid. Never tested for covid.
 
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Allegedly, a global 'team of experts' has declared that the covid tests are worthless and inaccurate. Interesting.
IMO RT is not even worthy of looking at unless I want to see what Putin wants me to know.

I understand that depending on the specific test there is a margin of error - some of them pretty high. It just means you factor that margin in when considering the data. Doing that is normal SOP.
 

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Here is the story: You get a fever, and it's a little hard to breathe, but not that bad. Take some tylenol and go to bed. You wake up in the middle of the night to find yourself gasping for air. You reach over to your wife and get her attention. She rolls over, “What's wrong honey? It's the middle of the night.” It's then she can hear you breathing, or trying to. She turns on the light and sees the panic in your eyes... No matter how much you inhale, it's not enough, it's never enough. That would be bad enough but the fever is spiking, it's hard to focus. Your three kids come into the room, they heard Mom talking loud, trying to get your attention. The little girl, 6 years old, you're the center of her universe. She's a daddy's girl and loves it when you take her places with you. "Is Daddy Okay?" Mom tries to hide her panic "He's fine honey, he'll be okay..." She struggles trying to decide if she should drive you to the emergency room or get an ambulance. She decides to drive. You're too out of it to get dressed so she takes you in your pajamas. Once there, they admit you. Your wife cannot go in. You're alone. She is sent to the house to quarantine with the rest of your kids. They start to work on you. You're getting tired, your chest hurts from trying to breathe for so long. Your blood pressure is up. They lower your fever a little and put on an oxygen mask. It seems to help a little, but only for an hour or so. Then your lungs begin to fight for air again. They offer to turn you over on your stomach, "sometimes it helps" they say. They roll you over... It does. You look out the door, Doctors are running everywhere. There are patients in the hallways. The ward is full, and everyone is trying to keep up. You hear Code calls, and ventilator machines being rolled up and down the hallway. You notice you cannot smell anything, and you have pain all over. You wonder about your family. Your daughter, the fear in her eyes as her daddy was put into the car. "Why are you leaving Daddy? I'll take care of you..."
Pain.. the fight for air. It's back. You press the button. They roll you back over and check you out. The doctor comes up to your bed. Completely covered, face mask, hood, looks a little like an astronaut. "Sir, you're not getting enough oxygen in your blood. We need to put you on a ventilator." You nod in agreement, gasping. "Sir... You won't be able to talk once we do this. Would you like to say anything to your family? We can arrange a facetime with them if you like.” As your head tries to wrap itself around this offer, one question comes to mind: "How serious is this?" It takes the doc a while to respond, he's done this hundreds of times, but it never gets easy. "Patients that go on a ventilator have a 4 in 10 chance of not recovering. Should we try to reach your family?" You nod... Numb. Your brain can't handle all the info it's getting. The fever, the pain in your chest the struggle for air, it's too much. A nurse comes back in with an iPad. "I have your family online" she tries to say with a smile. You take the Ipad. There they are, all three kids and your wife. Your everything. The look on their faces is a look you've seen before. The brave smiles. The look you give when you feel sorrow and pain, but need to cheer up the person you’re talking too. They are not at home.. It looks like they are outside. You pull in as much air as you can so you can sound somewhat normal. It does not work. "Hey guys, where are you?" Your wife forces another smile. “We're outside your window honey. They put signs out so we know where you are. They can't let us in. We're not supposed to leave the house but we needed to be close to you.” She starts to cry, it's too much for her. That's when it hits you. Clarity, all at once.. You're saying "goodbye.” The next time you hug your family will either be a few weeks from now, or in the hereafter. So this is your last chance to say something. The six year old is shaking, pale with fear. "Hey there nugget.. How you doing?" "Daddy... Please come home... Who will read to me? I miss you so much, please get out of bed.. I'll do anything you want!" You never realized you could cry as hard as you are right now, and it's making the breathing even harder. You know you're scaring her. You cannot stay on much longer. "I'm sorry nugget... I can't get out of bed right now. You take care of your Mama for me okay? I love your everything.” She looks at you through tear soaked eyes.. "I love your everything too.” You can't do it... You can't say goodbye, it's all just too much. The iPad falls in your lap as you struggle to both breathe and cry all at once. An alarm goes off, the Docs surround you and begin to put in the ventilator. Your eyes close for the last time. It's over. It takes years for your family to recover. They lost their rock, and nothing will be the same, ever again... End
I felt compelled to write this to give a perspective to those of us who are more focused on comfort and "getting back to normal.” The above story has played out thousands of times with Mothers, Fathers, Grandparents, and children. Families that will grieve for years to come.
it's not about how high the numbers go. It's about that one person.. Your "everything.”
Please... show compassion. Odds are you know somebody that endured something like this. We're in a war right now, and we're losing. It's time to step up and make sure these kids keep their parents.
Thank you.
 
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Wow, what a bunch of pussies..........get over it people die every day....from colds, from the flu, Just because you think you're special, doesn't mean the rest of us think you are. Stop with the BS drama about puppies and baby chicks dying horrible deaths...that's when you know you've lost the argument.
 

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Here is the story: You get a fever, and it's a little hard to breathe, but not that bad. Take some tylenol and go to bed. You wake up in the middle of the night to find yourself gasping for air. You reach over to your wife and get her attention. She rolls over, “What's wrong honey? It's the middle of the night.” It's then she can hear you breathing, or trying to. She turns on the light and sees the panic in your eyes... No matter how much you inhale, it's not enough, it's never enough. That would be bad enough but the fever is spiking, it's hard to focus. Your three kids come into the room, they heard Mom talking loud, trying to get your attention. The little girl, 6 years old, you're the center of her universe. She's a daddy's girl and loves it when you take her places with you. "Is Daddy Okay?" Mom tries to hide her panic "He's fine honey, he'll be okay..." She struggles trying to decide if she should drive you to the emergency room or get an ambulance. She decides to drive. You're too out of it to get dressed so she takes you in your pajamas. Once there, they admit you. Your wife cannot go in. You're alone. She is sent to the house to quarantine with the rest of your kids. They start to work on you. You're getting tired, your chest hurts from trying to breathe for so long. Your blood pressure is up. They lower your fever a little and put on an oxygen mask. It seems to help a little, but only for an hour or so. Then your lungs begin to fight for air again. They offer to turn you over on your stomach, "sometimes it helps" they say. They roll you over... It does. You look out the door, Doctors are running everywhere. There are patients in the hallways. The ward is full, and everyone is trying to keep up. You hear Code calls, and ventilator machines being rolled up and down the hallway. You notice you cannot smell anything, and you have pain all over. You wonder about your family. Your daughter, the fear in her eyes as her daddy was put into the car. "Why are you leaving Daddy? I'll take care of you..."
Pain.. the fight for air. It's back. You press the button. They roll you back over and check you out. The doctor comes up to your bed. Completely covered, face mask, hood, looks a little like an astronaut. "Sir, you're not getting enough oxygen in your blood. We need to put you on a ventilator." You nod in agreement, gasping. "Sir... You won't be able to talk once we do this. Would you like to say anything to your family? We can arrange a facetime with them if you like.” As your head tries to wrap itself around this offer, one question comes to mind: "How serious is this?" It takes the doc a while to respond, he's done this hundreds of times, but it never gets easy. "Patients that go on a ventilator have a 4 in 10 chance of not recovering. Should we try to reach your family?" You nod... Numb. Your brain can't handle all the info it's getting. The fever, the pain in your chest the struggle for air, it's too much. A nurse comes back in with an iPad. "I have your family online" she tries to say with a smile. You take the Ipad. There they are, all three kids and your wife. Your everything. The look on their faces is a look you've seen before. The brave smiles. The look you give when you feel sorrow and pain, but need to cheer up the person you’re talking too. They are not at home.. It looks like they are outside. You pull in as much air as you can so you can sound somewhat normal. It does not work. "Hey guys, where are you?" Your wife forces another smile. “We're outside your window honey. They put signs out so we know where you are. They can't let us in. We're not supposed to leave the house but we needed to be close to you.” She starts to cry, it's too much for her. That's when it hits you. Clarity, all at once.. You're saying "goodbye.” The next time you hug your family will either be a few weeks from now, or in the hereafter. So this is your last chance to say something. The six year old is shaking, pale with fear. "Hey there nugget.. How you doing?" "Daddy... Please come home... Who will read to me? I miss you so much, please get out of bed.. I'll do anything you want!" You never realized you could cry as hard as you are right now, and it's making the breathing even harder. You know you're scaring her. You cannot stay on much longer. "I'm sorry nugget... I can't get out of bed right now. You take care of your Mama for me okay? I love your everything.” She looks at you through tear soaked eyes.. "I love your everything too.” You can't do it... You can't say goodbye, it's all just too much. The iPad falls in your lap as you struggle to both breathe and cry all at once. An alarm goes off, the Docs surround you and begin to put in the ventilator. Your eyes close for the last time. It's over. It takes years for your family to recover. They lost their rock, and nothing will be the same, ever again... End
I felt compelled to write this to give a perspective to those of us who are more focused on comfort and "getting back to normal.” The above story has played out thousands of times with Mothers, Fathers, Grandparents, and children. Families that will grieve for years to come.
it's not about how high the numbers go. It's about that one person.. Your "everything.”
Please... show compassion. Odds are you know somebody that endured something like this. We're in a war right now, and we're losing. It's time to step up and make sure these kids keep their parents.
Thank you.
Now just imagine this is going on not at a US hospital but at the Cruz Roja .
 

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Must be cautious the health care system can handle it. That is very important. Even with the numbers not huge there needs to be space since hospitals that are over capacity. Refuse to transfer patients safely to hospitals with space. Sending a possible $30,000 Covid death to another hospital. Nope, like waiting for a overdue restaurant reservation the host won't refer you somewhere else, normally

I caught Dengue 6 years ago during the Dengue virus outbreak along the Costa Ballena coast. I know of over 50 people who caught it. After the 2.5 week broke bone fever broke. I was left with facial paralysis bel palsy for 2 months from the fever being so high then breaking. Put pressure on the seventh cranial nerve then half the face froze. Very scarry

There is a Dengue virus outbreak now. The highest fatality rate are children when there is a fatality. Dengue % deaths is considerably lower then then % of Covid. Towns have not been fume treated for mosquitos yet and its normally treated in May, low cost. If Dengue could raise a 2 billion dollar Dengue relief aid package. Maybe Dengue would be fear driven. There is no Dengue virus vaccine. Part of life. Catch Dengue a second time and it's more dangerous then the first time. I can't even imagine what a baby would feel like with Dengue because it is very painful. Feels like all bones are broken with a bat hitting the back of the head every few seconds

If there was Dengue fear mongering. Allot of folks would be wearing bee suits, mosquito electricution lanterns, doused in mosquito repellent, air-conditioning with the house sealed up, power fans so mosquitos could not land on the person, get bit by a mosquito and freak out, never go outside again, ect

Since it's all about health and all about protecting people? Fume treat for mosquitos would be cool for a few hundred dollars
 

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Don't forget about Fauci, That Jerk off changes his mind every other day. He probably gets his info from the fake media. One day he says mask's don't work the following week he says they do, I can name off 15 different times that Idiot has changed his mind from what he previously said. The shit he comes up with doesn't even take a high school degree to figure out. He like a female attention whore, Who just likes the attention!!!!!! HE'S A FUCKING IDIOT IN MY BOOK!!!!!!!!
Anybody that listens to anything that moron has to say is a f n idiot!, he is a liar.... douche fauci!
 
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I do know. The POTUS has hands on the controls to the most violent issues behind closed doors that results in people dying, by violence. So, the polished politian father figure does not work with all. We know what is discussed behind closed doors.
 
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Sprinkles I got it! Mineral rights. You were kidding right! Putin double crossed o bummer and Hillary!
 

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Asking for a friend. When fishing the most important tournament of the year. If the 1st place winner is accused of cheating (Mike Long) and it's blatant with evidence

Should second place just accept second and allow the cheater to win? Since Mike had already self proclaimed victory. Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings
 
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Sprinkles I got it! Mineral rights. You were kidding right! Putin double crossed o bummer and Hillary!
How did Putin double cross Obama and Hillary? The only people to get played in the U1 deal are folks like you.
 
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