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ZZZZZ

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I probably should had. But the one time I qualified for unemployment in Cali and was given directions how to receive the money. I did not pursue. Felt uncomfortable accepting a check that I did nothing to earn

I did pay legit into the program though and if I had a family. I would had taken it.

Some property owners are generous. And gifting free rent or accepting what the tenant can afford for close to a year now. That can only last so long

Help is wonderful. Leaching off the system as part of income. Is not cool imo

Who pays for this?
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Pacific Jigger

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Formula 233
For those whose challenges in life include reading comprehension, read it twice.
-Read carefully the list of credentials possessed by those who’ve signed this.
-Make sure you read the FAQs
“Listen to the doctors and follow the science”? - Here you go.
 

Phat Boat

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I'll add, on the propaganda box another covid fear monger said we are almost at 80% ICU occupancy. Oh know!! Well wait, what's the average ICU occupancy? Oh it's almost 70. Well we have a 10% increase in ICU let's all panic.

Source-
HCRIS data has also shown that between 2000 and 2005, national ICU occupancy rates ranged from 65% and 68% (1). In 2010, the average national ICU occupancy rate was 66% (unpublished data).Jul 21, 2017

In San Diego 126 of 520 in ICU are covid and occupancy is 73%.
 
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Oldtimer2

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plj46, shadowX, yakdout, et al.,

Lovely to hear from you fellas. Your arguments, such as they were, were remarkably similar: "I got mine, Jack. Go phuque yourself and anybody else who needs help." I think perhaps my post struck a nerve. That often happens when one feels guilty about their attitude or behavior. You strike out to attack rather than address the question.

My ole HS debate coach would've classified your posts in two ways. First, they used an argument called Tu quoque argumentum. Loosely translated, it means "You too". Let me give you an example (not related to our discussion, so it is clear what it means). I see someone catching fish over the limit. I mention the limit to them. They respond with the statement "You'd do it too!". See the relevance? It takes a moment of reflection.

The second thing my ole HS debate coach would say is that your arguments are Argumentum ad hominem. That means instead of addressing the point, you attack the person. Instead of addressing the point that we should be willing to help our fellow man, you attack me for suggesting it. "Hey, if you are so great, how come you ain't givin me no money?"

I read your posts. You appear to be so tied into stereotypes of the worthless lazy "welfare queen" "liberal hippie student" or "sneaky illegal immigrant" that you cannot see that there are lots of very good people who have hit tough times or have had bad luck. If you can help, that's a good thing.

But you ARE helping, even if you don't realize it. We all pay taxes. Those taxes, in addition to supporting our military, taking care of roads, supporting schools, etc., help out (to some extent) people in need. You all seemed to resent paying those taxes, even though you have made it due to the fact that this is a wonderful country. My view (just that, an opinion) is that we owe the USA bigtime, and I never minded contributing. (Of course, some small portion of that tax money will be misspent cause humans ain't never been perfect. But overall, I think living in the USA is a pretty daymn good deal.) It's possible you also contribute in other ways (Church, food banks, salvation army, etc.); if so, kudos to you. But none of those are as far reaching as what your taxes accomplish.

I suspect that none of you are as selfish as your posts appear. I'll bet you are all good people, but you have, for some reason, bought into the idea that "I got mine through my own hard work, with no help from anybody, and by God I deserve to keep everything I make for myself!" No one, emphasize NO ONE, makes it entirely on their own. You drive on roads built with public money. Most of you went to public schools. You use public launch ramps. You visit lakes behind reservoirs built with public money. You see doctors trained at public universities. Etc. Etc. Every one of us owes the US society we live in. I for one am thankful everyday that I live in the USA and not someplace like Communist China. I don't mind paying my share, and I try to give what else I can to private groups as well.

I'm not sure whether it's possible to have a coherent, polite conversation on the internet. I'm still a bit of a novice at this. But who knows. Cheers.
 

the SLIDER

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I love how young people voted for Biden. Did you see the picks for defense, state ect? Get ready young fellas to fight a foreign war.
So true. We are overdue. War falsely stimulates the economy. We will be looking for that after all this Covid is over. Paid Vacation Boys . . .


I hope you're having fun
Where's your uniform?
Where's your gun?
Better rub up that suntan oil
Cause you'll be fighting in the desert
It's not, Vietnam
Just another oil company scam
Salute that flag of uncle Sam
Get your money out place your bets
It's Afghanistan!
Fix baionets, check grenades
Got enough bullets
Got enough rounds to wipe out this place?
Were the infantry and cavalry
Parachutes fill the sky, bodies burn and people die


Bonus

I've got the world up my ass
And I'm gonna move fast
Be the first
Won't be the last
I've got the world up my ass
Society is burning me up
Take a bite,
Spit it out
Take their rules
Rip 'em up,
Tear them down
Twisted mind,
Withered brain
You know I'm going insane
I just tell them to get back
When they tell me how to act
I've got the world up my ass
You know I've got the world up my ass

 
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ShadowX

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plj46, shadowX, yakdout, et al.,

Lovely to hear from you fellas. Your arguments, such as they were, were remarkably similar: "I got mine, Jack. Go phuque yourself and anybody else who needs help." I think perhaps my post struck a nerve. That often happens when one feels guilty about their attitude or behavior. You strike out to attack rather than address the question.

My ole HS debate coach would've classified your posts in two ways. First, they used an argument called Tu quoque argumentum. Loosely translated, it means "You too". Let me give you an example (not related to our discussion, so it is clear what it means). I see someone catching fish over the limit. I mention the limit to them. They respond with the statement "You'd do it too!". See the relevance? It takes a moment of reflection.

The second thing my ole HS debate coach would say is that your arguments are Argumentum ad hominem. That means instead of addressing the point, you attack the person. Instead of addressing the point that we should be willing to help our fellow man, you attack me for suggesting it. "Hey, if you are so great, how come you ain't givin me no money?"

I read your posts. You appear to be so tied into stereotypes of the worthless lazy "welfare queen" "liberal hippie student" or "sneaky illegal immigrant" that you cannot see that there are lots of very good people who have hit tough times or have had bad luck. If you can help, that's a good thing.

But you ARE helping, even if you don't realize it. We all pay taxes. Those taxes, in addition to supporting our military, taking care of roads, supporting schools, etc., help out (to some extent) people in need. You all seemed to resent paying those taxes, even though you have made it due to the fact that this is a wonderful country. My view (just that, an opinion) is that we owe the USA bigtime, and I never minded contributing. (Of course, some small portion of that tax money will be misspent cause humans ain't never been perfect. But overall, I think living in the USA is a pretty daymn good deal.) It's possible you also contribute in other ways (Church, food banks, salvation army, etc.); if so, kudos to you. But none of those are as far reaching as what your taxes accomplish.

I suspect that none of you are as selfish as your posts appear. I'll bet you are all good people, but you have, for some reason, bought into the idea that "I got mine through my own hard work, with no help from anybody, and by God I deserve to keep everything I make for myself!" No one, emphasize NO ONE, makes it entirely on their own. You drive on roads built with public money. Most of you went to public schools. You use public launch ramps. You visit lakes behind reservoirs built with public money. You see doctors trained at public universities. Etc. Etc. Every one of us owes the US society we live in. I for one am thankful everyday that I live in the USA and not someplace like Communist China. I don't mind paying my share, and I try to give what else I can to private groups as well.

I'm not sure whether it's possible to have a coherent, polite conversation on the internet. I'm still a bit of a novice at this. But who knows. Cheers.
What you don't understand is there is a key difference. If I decide to give money to someone because its out of the kindness of my heart, its my decision. When the GOVERNMENT takes MY money to pay for someone out of their kindness of the government's heart, its not my decision. Its very key to understanding that one is mandated while the other option is not. The problem I see is that government does not spend the money in the way I approve. In fact, they waste the money and come back to ask for more. There is never enough money to give to the government to spend. People love socialism until other people take away their money.

People only send in money to government for the amount they are obligated by law. If you don't believe its true, you can always write a check to the government and give away all the money you made. They will cash that check if you send it in. Nobody is stopping you from doing that out of the kindness of your heart. You need to put your pocketbook where your mouth is. If you take life lessons from a high school coach and you're in your 40-50s now, its means you haven't grown up. Taking financial advice from a high school coach is the last thing I would do if I want to succeed financially in life.
 
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plj46, shadowX, yakdout, et al.,

Lovely to hear from you fellas. Your arguments, such as they were, were remarkably similar: "I got mine, Jack. Go phuque yourself and anybody else who needs help." I think perhaps my post struck a nerve. That often happens when one feels guilty about their attitude or behavior. You strike out to attack rather than address the question.

My ole HS debate coach would've classified your posts in two ways. First, they used an argument called Tu quoque argumentum. Loosely translated, it means "You too". Let me give you an example (not related to our discussion, so it is clear what it means). I see someone catching fish over the limit. I mention the limit to them. They respond with the statement "You'd do it too!". See the relevance? It takes a moment of reflection.

The second thing my ole HS debate coach would say is that your arguments are Argumentum ad hominem. That means instead of addressing the point, you attack the person. Instead of addressing the point that we should be willing to help our fellow man, you attack me for suggesting it. "Hey, if you are so great, how come you ain't givin me no money?"

I read your posts. You appear to be so tied into stereotypes of the worthless lazy "welfare queen" "liberal hippie student" or "sneaky illegal immigrant" that you cannot see that there are lots of very good people who have hit tough times or have had bad luck. If you can help, that's a good thing.

But you ARE helping, even if you don't realize it. We all pay taxes. Those taxes, in addition to supporting our military, taking care of roads, supporting schools, etc., help out (to some extent) people in need. You all seemed to resent paying those taxes, even though you have made it due to the fact that this is a wonderful country. My view (just that, an opinion) is that we owe the USA bigtime, and I never minded contributing. (Of course, some small portion of that tax money will be misspent cause humans ain't never been perfect. But overall, I think living in the USA is a pretty daymn good deal.) It's possible you also contribute in other ways (Church, food banks, salvation army, etc.); if so, kudos to you. But none of those are as far reaching as what your taxes accomplish.

I suspect that none of you are as selfish as your posts appear. I'll bet you are all good people, but you have, for some reason, bought into the idea that "I got mine through my own hard work, with no help from anybody, and by God I deserve to keep everything I make for myself!" No one, emphasize NO ONE, makes it entirely on their own. You drive on roads built with public money. Most of you went to public schools. You use public launch ramps. You visit lakes behind reservoirs built with public money. You see doctors trained at public universities. Etc. Etc. Every one of us owes the US society we live in. I for one am thankful everyday that I live in the USA and not someplace like Communist China. I don't mind paying my share, and I try to give what else I can to private groups as well.

I'm not sure whether it's possible to have a coherent, polite conversation on the internet. I'm still a bit of a novice at this. But who knows. Cheers.
Ouch!

Well said and well explained how some of these people so full of stereotypes. Deny, Deflect, Namecalling and attack the messenger is all they can do...If forced to present data and reports...Brietbar, OANN, Newsmax, other conspiracist sources and worst QAnon is what they believed in as the rest of mainstream media is “Fake News” for them.

Full of Hypocricsy as they profess desdain for anything liberal or for ideas they deemed leftist. Yet they are benefiting from way above the mandated minimum wage, social security benefits, medicare, etc...

If they have their way then we don’t have enough gamefish to enjoy as their will be no regulations.....we could be breathing one of the most polluted air quality too. I don’t think those regulations that are pro workers and pro consumers are initiated by the right.

Lastly, they can‘t even acknowledge that in our political realm...its not only between the commies, socialist, antifas, extreme lefties vs. white supremacist, white nationalist, mysogenist, homophobics and islamophobics, far-right....Dude they are all minorities in each side of the political spectrum. So for them its either you are with us or with them...it is what it is🤔.
 

strackle99

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I wonder how many dudes you’ve accidentally blown. So many unanswered questions.
If you want to spend your time thinking about dudes blowing dudes, that's your issue. Enjoy it.
 

ShadowX

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plj46, shadowX, yakdout, et al.,

Lovely to hear from you fellas. Your arguments, such as they were, were remarkably similar: "I got mine, Jack. Go phuque yourself and anybody else who needs help." I think perhaps my post struck a nerve. That often happens when one feels guilty about their attitude or behavior. You strike out to attack rather than address the question.

My ole HS debate coach would've classified your posts in two ways. First, they used an argument called Tu quoque argumentum. Loosely translated, it means "You too". Let me give you an example (not related to our discussion, so it is clear what it means). I see someone catching fish over the limit. I mention the limit to them. They respond with the statement "You'd do it too!". See the relevance? It takes a moment of reflection.

The second thing my ole HS debate coach would say is that your arguments are Argumentum ad hominem. That means instead of addressing the point, you attack the person. Instead of addressing the point that we should be willing to help our fellow man, you attack me for suggesting it. "Hey, if you are so great, how come you ain't givin me no money?"

I read your posts. You appear to be so tied into stereotypes of the worthless lazy "welfare queen" "liberal hippie student" or "sneaky illegal immigrant" that you cannot see that there are lots of very good people who have hit tough times or have had bad luck. If you can help, that's a good thing.

But you ARE helping, even if you don't realize it. We all pay taxes. Those taxes, in addition to supporting our military, taking care of roads, supporting schools, etc., help out (to some extent) people in need. You all seemed to resent paying those taxes, even though you have made it due to the fact that this is a wonderful country. My view (just that, an opinion) is that we owe the USA bigtime, and I never minded contributing. (Of course, some small portion of that tax money will be misspent cause humans ain't never been perfect. But overall, I think living in the USA is a pretty daymn good deal.) It's possible you also contribute in other ways (Church, food banks, salvation army, etc.); if so, kudos to you. But none of those are as far reaching as what your taxes accomplish.

I suspect that none of you are as selfish as your posts appear. I'll bet you are all good people, but you have, for some reason, bought into the idea that "I got mine through my own hard work, with no help from anybody, and by God I deserve to keep everything I make for myself!" No one, emphasize NO ONE, makes it entirely on their own. You drive on roads built with public money. Most of you went to public schools. You use public launch ramps. You visit lakes behind reservoirs built with public money. You see doctors trained at public universities. Etc. Etc. Every one of us owes the US society we live in. I for one am thankful everyday that I live in the USA and not someplace like Communist China. I don't mind paying my share, and I try to give what else I can to private groups as well.

I'm not sure whether it's possible to have a coherent, polite conversation on the internet. I'm still a bit of a novice at this. But who knows. Cheers.
You are also conflating two separate issues, social welfare vs public utilities/services.

In the case of public utilities/services, the cost is based on the usage. You are charged an amount based on the use of the utility. The more mileage you drive, the more taxes you pay on the gas that is used to service the roads. The more electricity you use, the more you are charged to generate those electricity. It would not make sense for everyone to make their own powerplant and run wires from the plant to each home. By pooling services, there are efficiency and cost reduction for all. Some services like policing and fire departments are basic services that we all contribute equally through local taxes.

Social welfare on the other hand is a different issue. The people who pay higher taxes have to support the people who need the social services. Its not based on equality. America grants people the right to equality of treatment, not equality of outcomes. Its a huge differentiation between the two. The Declaration of Independence states that everyone has a right to "life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness." Notice the qualifier on the word "pursuit". They intentionally used that word to separate the difference of pursuing a goal vs having a right to an outcome. You are free to pursue becoming rich, but you have absolutely no right to take away money/wealth from someone else in order to be equal.

In America, we have a right to equality of opportunity, not outcomes. Discrimination based on sex, race, etc are not allowed. In America, we have capitalism. It rewards people who takes risks and those who work hard to achieve their goals. The business owners take enormous amounts of risk to start their business and succeed. If they succeed, they can become wealthy. If they failed, they would lose their business, money and even their homes in some cases. Poor people have just as much opportunity to succeed if they work hard and take risks. There are plenty of examples like David Tran, the owner of Huy Fong. He came into this country in a boat and built an empire on Sriracha sauce. He came into this country with nothing and built a global business in just one generation. Only a few countries in this world allow such freedom and that is what I value about this country. It provides freedom and financial/social mobility based on HARD WORK.

Equality of outcome is where socialism comes in. In Vietnam, China and Russia, there equality of outcome. If you are lazy, you get the same amount of bread as the guy who works hard. There is no provision to reward hard work. Its not a system that I personally want or need. I come from a communist country and understand the repression of the people. Communists are idealist. They promote this agenda that everyone should be equal except for THEM. Have you ever seen a poor communist politician or high government official? They are not stupid so they they use their power to build wealth through corruption. I personally think socialism and communism always leads to corruption in the end. They may have grandeur visions on helping the population in the beginning, but at the end, it results in corruption because they gain power and wealth from others.

I completely disagree with your arguments and feel you are an idealist and have less experience with a communist or socialist country on personal level. I escaped a communist country with only only a small bag of clothes. We came into this country with absolutely nothing. I did not speak a single word of English and have to learn the language and obtained a Master's Degree to pursue my career goals in life. Pandering to people who has a different opinion with statements like "I'll bet you are all good people" implies you are virtue signaling. I bet you are good people too even though your intentions are good, your approach is bad for me and my country. America is my country now and its the best country in the world. I will do everything I can to push it away from the socialist/communist agendas that people with less experience promote. Liberals tend to say they want to leave the country when they don't get what they want. We literally had to leave the country where I was born due to discrimination and repression by the socialist/communist government. If you had to experience the same situation, you would have a different opinion about socialism and its benefits to society.
 
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Oldtimer2

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"Argumentum ad ignorantiam" is what your argument is based on.
ShadowX,
Let me thank you for a thoughtful and cogent reply. Maybe the internet could actually be a place of discussion and not screaming. And I was delighted that someone else knows the rules of rhetoric and debate arguments!! Argumentum ad ignorantiam, indeed. (Given my age, it's entirely likely that I am senile and don't know it, so you may be right. Clearly I'm NOT following the maxim that " If you are not a liberal at 25, you have no heart; if you are not a conservative at 45, you have no brain". I've seen it attributed to Edmund Burke or Winston Churchhill or several others. If it's true, I have no brain. )

I fear we must "agree to disagree". I don't see such things as food stamps, medicaid, soc sec, welfare etc. as bad things. I seem them as uses of tax money to help the less fortunate.....many of whom have no access to help from private sources. (I have never myself used those government services, except soc sec, which I paid into for 52 years, before retiring.)

From your well written post, I think you feel that the government should not provide those services with tax money. You feel that it's an unnecessary and inappropriate use of your tax contribution. So we disagree.

I am impressed that you came as an immigrant with nothing, and worked your way up into success. Kudos, young man, well done. Part of the reason I appreciate it is that I can relate to it.

My grandfather came from Ireland In 1890 with nothing, and managed to save enough working as a ranch hand to buy a small cattle ranch. He had to sell most of it in 1936 because of the depression. My father enlisted in 1937 and served until the end of WWII, fighting through the Pacific islands. My mother also lost her family farm in the depression and enlisted in the Navy Waves after Pearl Harbor. (The depression was tough; I wish that there had been more social services back then.) Anywho, I lost my father when I was young in a car accident, but I still remember both parents saying: "You must work hard in school to get the opportunities we did not have. You must take advantages of the public education (which was very good in the 50's) available to be more successful than we were".

Having grown up poor, I feel a need to try and give something back to disadvantaged people today. I made it due to to being in the USA.

We disagree. Perhaps it makes neither of us a bad person, as long as we don't get into hating each other, or painting each other as stereotypes.

Thanks again for your post.
 

plj46

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plj46, shadowX, yakdout, et al.,

Lovely to hear from you fellas. Your arguments, such as they were, were remarkably similar: "I got mine, Jack. Go phuque yourself and anybody else who needs help." I think perhaps my post struck a nerve. That often happens when one feels guilty about their attitude or behavior. You strike out to attack rather than address the question.

My ole HS debate coach would've classified your posts in two ways. First, they used an argument called Tu quoque argumentum. Loosely translated, it means "You too". Let me give you an example (not related to our discussion, so it is clear what it means). I see someone catching fish over the limit. I mention the limit to them. They respond with the statement "You'd do it too!". See the relevance? It takes a moment of reflection.

The second thing my ole HS debate coach would say is that your arguments are Argumentum ad hominem. That means instead of addressing the point, you attack the person. Instead of addressing the point that we should be willing to help our fellow man, you attack me for suggesting it. "Hey, if you are so great, how come you ain't givin me no money?"

I read your posts. You appear to be so tied into stereotypes of the worthless lazy "welfare queen" "liberal hippie student" or "sneaky illegal immigrant" that you cannot see that there are lots of very good people who have hit tough times or have had bad luck. If you can help, that's a good thing.

But you ARE helping, even if you don't realize it. We all pay taxes. Those taxes, in addition to supporting our military, taking care of roads, supporting schools, etc., help out (to some extent) people in need. You all seemed to resent paying those taxes, even though you have made it due to the fact that this is a wonderful country. My view (just that, an opinion) is that we owe the USA bigtime, and I never minded contributing. (Of course, some small portion of that tax money will be misspent cause humans ain't never been perfect. But overall, I think living in the USA is a pretty daymn good deal.) It's possible you also contribute in other ways (Church, food banks, salvation army, etc.); if so, kudos to you. But none of those are as far reaching as what your taxes accomplish.

I suspect that none of you are as selfish as your posts appear. I'll bet you are all good people, but you have, for some reason, bought into the idea that "I got mine through my own hard work, with no help from anybody, and by God I deserve to keep everything I make for myself!" No one, emphasize NO ONE, makes it entirely on their own. You drive on roads built with public money. Most of you went to public schools. You use public launch ramps. You visit lakes behind reservoirs built with public money. You see doctors trained at public universities. Etc. Etc. Every one of us owes the US society we live in. I for one am thankful everyday that I live in the USA and not someplace like Communist China. I don't mind paying my share, and I try to give what else I can to private groups as well.

I'm not sure whether it's possible to have a coherent, polite conversation on the internet. I'm still a bit of a novice at this. But who knows. Cheers.
Do you think i'm filthy rich or something ? I'm still trying to get a retirement portfolio big enough to where i can live comfortably when i retire without relying on aid from the Government.I take care of my family first,others are next in line.As far as taxation goes ? I pay plenty like the vast majority of Americans do.For those that think paying a little more is ok,they must have more money than they know what to do with.Every little thing you do has a tax on it,everything.I don't have a problem paying taxes.I have a problem getting taxed more so some lazy POS can milk the system for all it's worth.Our generosity as a country has only lead to more people milking us.Those programs don't decrease poverty,they multiply it by making people not earn their keep.The only thing i owe society is to be an upstanding citizen by paying my taxes fairly,not breaking the laws of this country and getting along with others as a good person.When somebody tells me i should pay more in taxes it pisses me off.Our Government (all of them) piss our tax money away in the worst ways.If you feel like you don't pay enough go ahead and write a bigger check at tax time.No write-offs or deductions,pay the maximum and then some.And i feel zero guilt or shame for the way i lead my life,none ! No reason to.Are you going to pay my health insurance premium for a month or what ? The one that almost doubled in price because of Obamacare.The one i pay every month so somebody that never insured themselves can now be insured.Contribute more my ass.I do plenty.
 

pacificscout

Hey! You got any frozen ice?
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Do you think i'm filthy rich or something ? I'm still trying to get a retirement portfolio big enough to where i can live comfortably when i retire without relying on aid from the Government.I take care of my family first,others are next in line.As far as taxation goes ? I pay plenty like the vast majority of Americans do.For those that think paying a little more is ok,they must have more money than they know what to do with.Every little thing you do has a tax on it,everything.I don't have a problem paying taxes.I have a problem getting taxed more so some lazy POS can milk the system for all it's worth.Our generosity as a country has only lead to more people milking us.Those programs don't decrease poverty,they multiply it by making people not earn their keep.The only thing i owe society is to be an upstanding citizen by paying my taxes fairly,not breaking the laws of this country and getting along with others as a good person.When somebody tells me i should pay more in taxes it pisses me off.Our Government (all of them) piss our tax money away in the worst ways.If you feel like you don't pay enough go ahead and write a bigger check at tax time.No write-offs or deductions,pay the maximum and then some.And i feel zero guilt or shame for the way i lead my life,none ! No reason to.Are you going to pay my health insurance premium for a month or what ? The one that almost doubled in price because of Obamacare.The one i pay every month so somebody that never insured themselves can now be insured.Contribute more my ass.I do plenty.
That was awesome.
 

Oldtimer2

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Do you think i'm filthy rich or something ? I'm still trying to get a retirement portfolio big enough to where i can live comfortably when i retire without relying on aid from the Government.I take care of my family first,others are next in line.As far as taxation goes ? I pay plenty like the vast majority of Americans do.For those that think paying a little more is ok,they must have more money than they know what to do with.Every little thing you do has a tax on it,everything.I don't have a problem paying taxes.I have a problem getting taxed more so some lazy POS can milk the system for all it's worth.Our generosity as a country has only lead to more people milking us.Those programs don't decrease poverty,they multiply it by making people not earn their keep.The only thing i owe society is to be an upstanding citizen by paying my taxes fairly,not breaking the laws of this country and getting along with others as a good person.When somebody tells me i should pay more in taxes it pisses me off.Our Government (all of them) piss our tax money away in the worst ways.If you feel like you don't pay enough go ahead and write a bigger check at tax time.No write-offs or deductions,pay the maximum and then some.And i feel zero guilt or shame for the way i lead my life,none ! No reason to.Are you going to pay my health insurance premium for a month or what ? The one that almost doubled in price because of Obamacare.The one i pay every month so somebody that never insured themselves can now be insured.Contribute more my ass.I do plenty.
Plj46,
I think your post describes perfectly your position. The tone is completely consistent with the words you are saying. You are transparently clear about your views.
I wish the best for you. Good luck.
 
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Never thought I'd see the day when I'd jump into the 'mosh pit'!
But just had to share this article originating from Johns Hopkins (via 'notthebee'):

(of course the article is next to the one entitled "
Pew study indicates leftism is LITERALLY a mental illness"
so you may choose to avoid going to that site entirely!)
 

plj46

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is Covid19 really serious???

This family think it is so....

Oh give it a rest.Go stand on a street corner and hold a sign that says "Covid kills" If all 12 caught it at the same time it doesn't say much about their hygiene habits does it ? How many of them died ?
 
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Oh give it a rest.Go stand on a street corner and hold a sign that says "Covid kills" If all 12 caught it at the same time it doesn't say much about their hygiene habits does it ? How many of them died ?
You guyz and your fellow covidiots can download this card....and hopefully you don’t put our overworked frontliners by seeking medical help. Reserve those medical services for those people who take covid19 infections seriously who wear mask and practice social distancing and yet still got covid19 infections because some folks dont.

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huh..ya have to be tested to see if ya even have it
 

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Dear (Dave) squared,

Some information you should probably know:

1] The article was "published" in a STUDENT magazine called The Johns Hopkins News-Letter published by the students of Johns Hopkins. (Published by the Students of Johns Hopkins since 1896.) It is not, nor has it ever been, an official publication of the medical/scientific staff of Hopkins. The articles are not peer reviewed.

2] Yanni Gu (the author of the article) is a junior undergraduate with a major of German and Neuroscience. He is neither medically, scientifically, or statistically trained. He is in the midst of his 3rd year of college.

3] The reason it was deleted was that the actual scientists and medical people (who run the Hopkins covid research site: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/ ) saw that it was NOT correct. In fact it was flawed in essentially all of its conclusions.

Not surprisingly, however, copies of the article almost immediately appeared on websites of a certain bent. Strangely (or perhaps not) none of these websites added the information about the student magazine nor the fact that Gu was not qualified to actually comment on the virus.

The link you gave as a reference (good for you to give the reference) was: Not the Bee. This is a conservative Christian website, which also has a sister conservative Christian website called The Babylon Bee, which deals in semisatire. But the article was picked up by several conservative websites. EVERY website I've looked at (6) presented the information as if it were an official scientific publication from Hopkins. And as you clearly know, Hopkins has been a major contributor to the public information on Covid (see reference above).

So Dave2, I think perhaps you have been misled. I can understand why you would think it might be true because of the way the websites presented it. But since the statements are in almost direct contradiction of everything else that Hopkins has presented, I decided to look a bit deeper.
 
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You guyz and your fellow covidiots can download this card....and hopefully you don’t put our overworked frontliners by seeking medical help. Reserve those medical services for those people who take covid19 infections seriously who wear mask and practice social distancing and yet still got covid19 infections because some folks dont.

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If you’re the .01 percent of people who are at risk yes, please take it seriously. I’m sick of this you’ll kill grandma shit. You’ll kill grandma if you don’t take the untested mandatory vaccine up your ass. Really? Cause grandma should have gotten then vaccine if she’s high risk and that would mean grandma will be totally fine if I’m around her and she had the vaccine. But what about the mask? some of you dumbasses ask. Your selfish. Really? Or are you just so stupid in thinking it will work for her if I’m wearing a mask? but if she’s wearing it, and I’m not wearing one, all of a sudden hers is ineffective. You guys are a joke.
 
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