Shimano Counterfeit Power Pro

yessokk

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Sep 18, 2006
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Our ambitious friends from across the sea are extremely industrious in their efforts to vacuume our wallets. Fake PP is difficult to spot. The only test that may expose the fake is to try and light the end of the line on fire. If it immediately burst into flame then its fake if you have to burn it an inch or so back before it ignites into flame it is genuine.

This has been going on for several year. The link below is informative.

Walt

http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/counterfeit_warning.html
 
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NGSD1

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Jun 6, 2012
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it is common sense for most people that buy from China or unauthorized sources that they are taking a chance. PowerPro is just one of many victims that has to suffer because people willingly accept knock offs or get taken with cheap prices on fleebay or overseas sales. Buy from a reputable dealer.
 
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stairman

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May 16, 2009
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Why buy anything from china..I know it hard not to but if there is a choice buy American...and not just fishing tackle
 
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bmachale

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Does it say Power Pro on the spool? there are many braids that are not name brands on the market. If they say power pro then it is wrong, but if it just says 8 strand braid then it is not counterfeit. The second part is if it is any good.
 
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Bantam1

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Sep 13, 2007
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We have had that warning on our website for several years. I know because I suggested it when the counterfeit line showed up on site such as Ebay. They copied the spool, packaging and labels 100%. We made a chance and so did they. It's impossible to keep changing the packaging or labels often enough to stay ahead of them. I have seen some being sold in the US which makes it even harder to know if its fake or not. The best way to get around it is to buy from a local or well known dealer. This way you know the line came from us and not a Chinese counterfeit company.

We have also seen counterfeit G.Loomis rods being sold online. Thankfully they were painted incorrect colors which made it easy to spot. I have also seen some counterfeit Shimano reels on sites like Alibaba. All good reasons to support your local dealer.
 
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Steve K

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Jan 2, 2005
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Pretty brazen. They could at least call it Pro Power so it would be compatible with the Fall Flat jigs. ;)
 
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lkatdpelicanfly

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Our ambitious friends from across the sea are extremely industrious in their efforts to vacuume our wallets. Fake PP is difficult to spot. The only test that may expose the fake is to try and light the end of the line on fire. If it immediately burst into flame then its fake if you have to burn it an inch or so back before it ignites into flame it is genuine.

This has been going on for several year. The link below is informative.

Walt

http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/counterfeit_warning.html

Thanks for the tip. Recently bought a 500 yard spool of 80...from a US source but will definately give it the burn test. Been seeing a lot of spools sold from vietnam as well but im leary of any braided line coming from any overseas seller on the auction websites.
 
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hilltop

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steve K nailed it again! pro power ? haha classic!
 
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desmonic

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We have had that warning on our website for several years. I know because I suggested it when the counterfeit line showed up on site such as Ebay. They copied the spool, packaging and labels 100%. We made a chance and so did they. It's impossible to keep changing the packaging or labels often enough to stay ahead of them. I have seen some being sold in the US which makes it even harder to know if its fake or not. The best way to get around it is to buy from a local or well known dealer. This way you know the line came from us and not a Chinese counterfeit company.

We have also seen counterfeit G.Loomis rods being sold online. Thankfully they were painted incorrect colors which made it easy to spot. I have also seen some counterfeit Shimano reels on sites like Alibaba. All good reasons to support your local dealer.

So is "trying to burn it" test accurate? I bought a couple of them from ebay and they passed the test.
 
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Carpfisher

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I couldn't do the china thing but ordered a spool of 40. Coming from New Jersey, Probably via china, Not PP but pic showed Dyneema. I'll try the flame and strength breaking test before I put it on. So cheap it's got to be fake. Ever hear of Cast King? Any word if there stuff is fake? Not who I ordered from
 
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Bantam1

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Sep 13, 2007
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I don't know about the burn test. But you can look at the line and see that it isn't Power Pro. The strength isn't anywhere near Power Pro either.
 
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red49er

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Oct 1, 2015
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I couldn't do the china thing but ordered a spool of 40. Coming from New Jersey, Probably via china, Not PP but pic showed Dyneema. I'll try the flame and strength breaking test before I put it on. So cheap it's got to be fake. Ever hear of Cast King? Any word if there stuff is fake? Not who I ordered from
i tried their braid and it rotted off my reel in 6 months. the 25lb mono seemed lighter than trilene big game 25lb but it worked fine, just didn't instill much confidence.
 
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jim isbell

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Our ambitious friends from across the sea are extremely industrious in their efforts to vacuume our wallets. Fake PP is difficult to spot. The only test that may expose the fake is to try and light the end of the line on fire. If it immediately burst into flame then its fake if you have to burn it an inch or so back before it ignites into flame it is genuine.

This has been going on for several year. The link below is informative.

Walt

http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/counterfeit_warning.html
I guess the fake stuff is different from the genuine, Chinese made (quality?) product?
 
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jim isbell

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Power Pro is made in the USA. Do a little research before you make an assumption about one of the few remaining companies keeping their production here.
It is worse than that--I did do research---but after going blind looking at all the sites, remembered it wrong--maybe that doesn't happen to you, but it does to me sometimes. This site also fooled me , the packaging says "Power Pro"--and "made in America" YET is actually made in China. The other thing, is that many, many times I have found something is "made in US" and then I am told "yeah, but that site you looked at was 2 years old--TODAY it is made in China".
Putting all that aside, yes it appears you are correct, correction noted. The fraud stuff is out there, same packaging exactly, the dead give away--the only giveaway as far as I can see, is the price. If whoever is doing it, gets smart and only sells it a small amount cheaper, not sure how you could know. But the tester on the video link I sent says it is junk in comparison to the true, American made pp.
 
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Lorenz89

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Sep 17, 2014
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Lorenz
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Lolo
80 lbs fake vs 80 lbs original


Less detailed logo on the fake stuff


Tipping faults or bad english


Other hints:
Uncommon spool sizes (but spool sizes might differ depending on the product and dealers might respool original line from bulk spools to smaller neutral spools), identical barcode/numbers on different diameters, ...
 
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bayfisher86

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I wasn't trying to be argumentative. I think it's safe that these companies do this overseas and it's almost impossible to catch them or do anything through the correct legal channels because they are overseas. Stick to buying Power Pro at your favorite local retailer an you should never have an issue. Sometimes hunting for deals online doesn't get you anything but a headache.
 
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MikeKilo

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Dec 5, 2012
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Wow, i'm glad I couldn't sleep and came across this thread, I was just about to order the best "deal" on ebay but pretty sure its a counterfeit at this point coming from puerto rico.
 
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Royce c

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Dec 15, 2017
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Royce C Johnson
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Not saying I would buy from China. I've recently found a fishing line made in Wisconsin. Reaction tackle.
 
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