Coronados Part of New Marine Reserve?

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  1. big dog62

    big dog62 Well-Known "Member"

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    .....Like sands thru an hour glass.........So are the days of our lives......
     
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  2. MYNomad

    MYNomad Heading South

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    That phrase is used a lot, and every time I hear it I can't help but be discouraged by the defeatist attitude it reflects. A better philosophy would be "it is what it is, but it will be what we make of it."
     
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  3. ?? fisherman

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    Or at least what we attempt to make of it.

    The unknown fisherman:p:
     
  4. sealskinner

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    Most see this bringing an end to fishing south. I believe we will have to buy a permit or possibly a one year license, like we always have. I don't believe we will be excluded.

    But it's interesting watching people wait for the doomsday bus.
     
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  5. Aggro

    Aggro Keepin my pimp hand strong!

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    Chargers are leaving :rofl:
     
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  6. JoshInSD

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    Well at least many of you will have a good excuse not to camp on your boat like we did last weekend at the islands. You can just say it's illegal. I hope that was not the last time we get to do it however.
     
  7. gecsr1

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    That quote applies sometimes...and sometimes we have no choice.....

    ps: I like it :)
     
  8. jer dog

    jer dog Fishing is life

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    how about what Is Illegal, down their
    is Undocumented up here. LOL
     
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  9. bparker1225

    bparker1225 Ocean Addiction

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    Patience wait and see. Commercial fishing:long lines & seiners might be excluded while allowing properly permitted recreational fishing. Patience...
    So blessed that Mexico is not part of the United States or we would have condos, development and freeways polluting the pristine Baja coastline and waters.
     
  10. FishinMcNuggets

    FishinMcNuggets Fishin fo' Nutrition!

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    http://sdg.iisd.org/news/mexico-announces-four-mpas-achieves-aichi-biodiversity-target-11/

    quote from link above "This designation... ...will also protect fishing grounds upon which local cooperatives’ livelihoods depend. "
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    http://sdg.iisd.org/news/mexico-announces-four-mpas-achieves-aichi-biodiversity-target-11/
    quote from link above "The Reserve will protect 21 islands, 97 islets and surrounding sea areas through multiple-use zoning, which includes protection of fishing grounds for local fishermen and habitats for marine mammals and seabirds."
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    Sounds like the co-ops are a stakeholder, plus "The Nature Conservancy" is consulting on this. Looks bad for nearshore fishing for American vessels. I will look over whatever I can find on the (link) http://www.gob.mx/conanp website to see what the decree might say.

    -Mike
     
  11. kevina

    kevina I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    You don't know Mexico to well, It's always been the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, Their is no middle class in MX. Your either rich or poor.
     
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    Send in the Marines. I volunteer as well.

    Baja California= California.

    Say what one more time....
     
  13. crabdancer

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    Easy there. L. Ron Hubbard softened the islands up for target practice and lost his boat for it.

    Maybe they're still mad about that.
     
  14. Cubeye

    Cubeye I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Your statement may have been true many years ago, but I don't think that's true today. As we drive and fish down Baja, we are seeing more and more nice houses going up and many new SUV's with Mexico license plates. There are environmental working groups in Mexico. Do you think they are the poor or the rich? I don't think they care, but the middle class, yes.
     
  15. gecsr1

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    Instead they have drug lords, uncontrolled violence, laws that they bend to suit them selves...Screw mexico....
     
  16. gecsr1

    gecsr1 28' Aquasport "Reel Adventure II"

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    lets hope that we see changes soon.. well after January...
     
  17. Vigilant32

    Vigilant32 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Actually I do and have been going there for 40 years. But mostly I visit Baja N&S.

    I know middle class folks from Baja. They clearly are not poor, their families work hard, own houses and collectively gather the children and send them to better schools to further the future of their families. They are fisherman, farmers, tour guides, hold whale watching flags, concessions for business & use of certain land or sea for business opportunities.

    These hard working people would certainly benefit from more visitors from the US & Canada. The trickle down economy actually works throughout the world, not perfectly but it creates opportunity across most segments of society.

    If just one or two LR style boatload a week fished out of say SAN Q or MagBay the benefit would be spread across a much wider swath of people than it does from the SD fleet operators, landing owners & supporting infrastructure here as it is controlled by a very few weathly individuals.
     
  18. big dog62

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    So, are you suggesting people drive down to SQ Mex to board a LR boat?
    That'd be handy :shake:
     
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  19. Vigilant32

    Vigilant32 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    How did you read that into my post. No you skip the LR boat and fish via the local resources within Baja.

    I realize this site is SD fleet centric but there are now and will be other options to fish the Baja coastline & islands.
     
  20. big dog62

    big dog62 Well-Known "Member"

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    Ok, I see what your trying to say. Personally, I have done destination fishing trips and usually have had a good time. Unfortunately, I find that the Mexican laws aren't usually "user friendly", and tend to leave most people feeling like they're being taken advantage of.

    So, for me, SDLR is the best vehicle to fish south of the border. I like loading up on US soil, unloading on US soil. I seriously doubt this situation will disable the SDLR fleet. A few pesos, placed in the right pockets, seems to work wonders down there.
     
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