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Cheeseburger Killer

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BD Mates,
I spoke with an acquaintance yesterday whose husband is a meteorologist. He said that this cool weather pattern would trend through the year. As I recall there was another year (2008 maybe?) when the weather was weird like this. But I wasn’t fishing much then. For those of you that were, how did the cool temps effect the normal summer/fall kelp paddy fishery and offshore tuna bite?...
 

Azarkon

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2010, and it killed it in local waters. Had to go 200 miles out for tuna from what I remember.

Water temperatures dropped 10 degrees last few days, looking bad.

But you know the water's been getting warmer the last few years on average. So it shouldn't be as bad as 2010, we've already got yellow local and tuna within 1 day range, should still be okay.
 

Paddyman1

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Hmmmm...I think I killed it that year! LOL

Very honestly, I think we were in a La Nina state at the time, but the surf was good! See Jason Satellite imagery in 2008 and current. Mild El Nino in affect now. Wave photos taken October 2008 in Dana Pt.

Browsing through my fish photos, we had an outstanding dorado season in Loreto, but don't recall what was happening in local SoCal. You might be stuck with fishing for these same old bluefin tuna. :smoking33:

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Fins in the Bin

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I was just talking about that year with somebody, the worst thing about it is the water just kept rolling over weekly like clockwork. Our Pacific would try to get stabilized but then just like what seams to happen right now the wind out of the West/North rolls it all over and you have to try to figure it out again. High gas prices, fish further away and no bite predictability made me not fish that much during that summer. Good working weather though and I could use some good surf for a while too!
 

ol'skool

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I sent a question in to the NOAA blog site and got this response...still sounds promising to me!

RE: RE: Figures update
Submitted by Bruce Hershberger on Thu, 2019-05-09 10:21


Off of southern CA we've noticed cooler than average near shore water temps than usual for this time of year...usually warming by now. That strip of cooler water that pushes up against southern CA; is that the Walker Circulation you mentioned and do you think conditions will give way for that warmer water down Mexico way to make its way north as summer progresses?

RE: RE: RE: Figures update
Submitted by Nathaniel.Johnson on Thu, 2019-05-09 12:56
That region is too far north to be directly affected by the Walker circulation. Most of the ocean surface off California seems to have warmer than average temperatures (see, for example, here), so I am guessing that the cooler waters reflect local wind conditions and the ocean response. On the larger scale, the forecast models generally have been favoring warmer than average conditions along the California coast, so I would not rule out a reversal of the cooler conditions you describe.
 

rick Jackson

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I sent a question in to the NOAA blog site and got this response...still sounds promising to me!

RE: RE: Figures update
Submitted by Bruce Hershberger on Thu, 2019-05-09 10:21


Off of southern CA we've noticed cooler than average near shore water temps than usual for this time of year...usually warming by now. That strip of cooler water that pushes up against southern CA; is that the Walker Circulation you mentioned and do you think conditions will give way for that warmer water down Mexico way to make its way north as summer progresses?

RE: RE: RE: Figures update
Submitted by Nathaniel.Johnson on Thu, 2019-05-09 12:56
That region is too far north to be directly affected by the Walker circulation. Most of the ocean surface off California seems to have warmer than average temperatures (see, for example, here), so I am guessing that the cooler waters reflect local wind conditions and the ocean response. On the larger scale, the forecast models generally have been favoring warmer than average conditions along the California coast, so I would not rule out a reversal of the cooler conditions you describe.
:gaygroup:
 

Cheeseburger Killer

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What a great series of responses, especially the one from Ol’ Skool. Any response with real science in it gets bonus points. And I agree with our brother Dudeman, there is always something to be caught out there, regardless of the conditions. Tight lines...
 

Hardcor

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This is a picture from the satellite earth temps 5-23-2019
Below is the same picture 6-10-2018
Below that is the same picture 5-28-2015
Remember this all happens at the same time kelvin rides his wave in to town

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ol'skool

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Cool report, no pun intended. Can't predict the weather... accurately at least. There is always something to be caught out there.
Thanks Hardcore and I couldn't agree more dudeman. Yeah, we all live for the thrill of the catch but the hunt, camaraderie and the experience of being part of God's awesome creation keep us motivated...until the line gets tight and the reel screams, then it game on!
 

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Or a MLB hitter. 300 avg. lifetime gets you into hall of fame.^
 

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Hmmmm...I think I killed it that year! LOL

Very honestly, I think we were in a La Nina state at the time, but the surf was good! See Jason Satellite imagery in 2008 and current. Mild El Nino in affect now. Wave photos taken October 2008 in Dana Pt.

Browsing through my fish photos, we had an outstanding dorado season in Loreto, but don't recall what was happening in local SoCal. You might be stuck with fishing for these same old bluefin tuna. :smoking33:

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Sweet surf pics. Where was the last one taken?
 
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