Confusing Gear Choices

Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by Fincutter, Sep 1, 2018.

  1. Fincutter

    Fincutter Well-Known "Member"

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    Less that three weeks until my 8-day on the Indy and I'm feeling a bit confused about gear selection. Last year the choices seemed pretty clear but this year a possible right turn for cows and the prospect of needing to fish light line with small bait complicate things. I'd like to stay at 10 rigs or less but I'm kinda wondering about that. Not to mention all the different hooks, flouro, etc that goes with uber-variety.

    Thoughts?
     
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    BIG gear and small gear. 40 or 50 will likely not get much use
     
  3. PE Pete

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    Hey Greg, when I do 5 day off shore trips I write it all down.
    Rods, reels, leaders, jigs, consumables, tools etc.
    Gives me a bit of clarity about what I need vs what I think I need.
    Also the list proves invaluable when it comes time to disembark the boat.
     
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    Well that was helpful, what would you write down for this trip?
     
  5. PE Pete

    PE Pete Tight lines PE Pete

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    My appologies Mick....
    Was simply trying to offer a suggestion from my experience.
    What do you suggest Mick?
     
  6. Brad I

    Brad I Common Sense Isn't Common Enough

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    Flexible gear is the key. Take rods that can fish two line classes comfortably (such 60-80). Take reels with spectra so that you can change topshots as conditions require. I'm going on a 10 day in four weeks and plan on bringing:

    30# bait (for wahoo and smaller tuna, can be moved down to 25)
    2 x 40# bait
    50# bait
    60-80# bait
    100# bait
    troll/dropper loop, 130# bait if needed
    surface iron
    2 x wahoo/yoyo

    That's ten rigs, and I'm covered for just about anything. I'm going to bring a couple of backup reels too. That list could be cut down further by eliminating one of the 40# bait rigs, using a wahoo/yoyo rod for 40- 60# bait by using an alternate reel,, and/or taking a 100-130# rod and using it for big bait, troll and dropper loop, or just use the boat's trolling gear. If you don't have a good 60-80 setup, fine, just combine a 40-50#, or whatever you've got.

    This can work also because on almost every trip, one isn't sure in advance what rigs will be used the most, but 2-3 of them will get by far the most work, and you can be set up for those needs as conditions dictate and maybe never need to switch things out to an alternate line class or use.

    Again, think flexible and you should be fine. Good luck
     
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    Always a tough decision. I try to bring less and since you are traveling by air, even better. I agree with Brad, to bring duel purpose stuff. I'd bring a rod that is good for a 30 # set up, and a reel that can work with 25 or 30. If you have spectra on the reel, wait till you are on the boat and then ask the crew what works best. You can also use this outfit for bait fishing. I bring two 40 set ups if you go to the ridge or off shore. A 50-60 for yoyo or wahoo jigs. And one heavy 80-100 for whatever. Bringing an extra reel or two allows you to change if necessary. However, I would wait till you arrive and talk to the crew. The boat usually has heavy gear as well.

    Hooks selection is another issue. If you don't have a lot of variety, I'd wait till you get to town and talk to one of the tackle shops. Also someone on the boat will have the size you need. It all depends on the size of the bait.

    Fluro... 25, 30, 40 for sure. Heavy wind on like 80, 100, 130. I use 50 mono for yo-yo or surface, I don't think fluro makes a difference here.

    Have fun.
     
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  8. Wendell Fox

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    This makes the most sence to me. And yes don't under estimate the need for a flexible 30lb outfit that you can downsize slightly if things get ticky.
     
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  9. spinner

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    you can't do it/ right turn or left turn/supercows possibility/15 day rigs

    then you have your 8 day rigs

    then you have your wahoo rigs/15 day

    then you have your small bait/anchoie rigs

    tough to make it happen with any gear limitations

    you could easily have 15 rigs and still leave something you want at home and regret it later
     
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  10. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Going on a 8 day, I like it! Barring any radical changes to the current bait situation with respect to size, given the option to take a backup outfit, it would be another that fishes 20-25 on an 8’ rod rather than 40 on a 7’ rod.

    So to “write that down” in a list using my own gear.

    Starting with flylining gear for fishing bait

    Daiwa SL20SH with 20-25 lb topshot on a Calstar 800L
    Penn FTH15LD2 with 30 lb fluorocarbon topshot on a very nice
    G Loomis 7’ Pelagic Series rod rated 25-40. Model # is PSR84-30C SU
    Penn FTH30LD2 with 40 lb fluorocarbon topshot, 6470
    Shimano Tyrnos 12II, same 40 lb topshot, suitable rod
    Accurate BX2-600N for 50-60 lb on a 6465XH

    Lures, artificials, jigs...

    Penn FTH40NLD2, long 50 lb mono topshot, 6470H
    Trinidad 40, long 50 lb mono topshot, 6465H
    Use these for fishing Wahoo jigs and bombs or Yellows on YoYo iron.
    Saltist 40T, Long 40 lb mono topshot on Calstar 850H, surface iron.

    Edit: Better take something heavy for whatever comes along

    Penn 30S on a 6463XXH
     
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  11. SouthBayKiller

    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    20, 30, 40, 50, 100, jig stick done! Maybe a 2nd 20 and 40/50. That’s 8 and your set.
     
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  12. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    You see, it’s just that easy. Have a beer. :)
     
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    Ok. I am currently set up with rigs from 20# to 150# or more. My longest rods are 7'. I don't feel like I can cast an anchovy with a 7' rod to get away from the boat. What 8' rods can a person purchase in SD to fish 20-30#, and 30-40# live bait? Charkbait has some UC rods rated the #'s I think I need, but they don't list what the action is. Need help here.
     
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    Actions are listed in the catalog!
    Tight lines!
    http://unitedcompositesusa.com/download/UCCatalog2018.pdf
     
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    Allen, aren’t you on a Phenix Rods sponsored trip? Use a demo...
     
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    I used to fish anchovies for Albacore on a Seeker 270 and g970 and could cast them fine. If in doubt add a 1/4 oz egg sinker to the line. Small sardines are stronger than anchovies so they’ll swim once you get them in the water. The Excel has been making macs in the harbor before heading out.
     
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    Just a heads up if you go after those bigger bluefin. Be open-minded to go with what works... no matter what it is. I got a 77 pound bluefin in June with 50# yozuri flouro and a 1/0 ringed gamakatsu (sp?) hook. Never would have put that line and hook together, except we saw the size of the bluefin.... and the size of the little minnows in the baitball they were attacking. Used the outfit mentioned and the SMALLEST healthy looking bait I could find in the tank. JMO
     
  19. Wendell Fox

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    Not sure why your assuming all the baits will be anchovy? And if the bait is small consider bringing some small sliding egg sinkers to put on your line Every 8 day I have been on we have spent one or more nights catching Mackeral which are a great bait to use. No casting necessary. Just send them on their way with a gentle underhand cast. Also you should plan on bringing a few Yo Yo Jigs and Wahoo Bombs which any heavier seven foot rod can toss with ease. That’s a great way to get away from the bait tank. Very effective at times. Your going to catch a lot of fish regardless of what length rod you use. Good luck!
     
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    Thanks Stan.
     

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