Condor Sportfishing

rdrblck66

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Went on the Condor for the WON Tournament . Tough day of fishing, early in morning(around 4am) a guy gets hooked up to a monster on the flatfall. Using the Right Gear. Awesome Battle Bluefin won. Saw quite a few patties, most were dry a couple had a few Rats. Beautiful Day still had a Blast!! Now about the Skipper,Boat and Crew. First Scott the Owner/Captain is a Awesome Captain and Just a Great Guy!! Very friendly, makes you feel at home. Also Works his ASS of to find fish. Second the Boat, Huge boat tons of fishing room Great galley, and a lot of double wide bunks. The food is Outstanding, Third The Crew was Outstanding, very Friendly and Worked hard to try and get us Fish. Overall Awesome Experience would Definitely Recommend this Boat!!
 
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Did you see what ended up failing with the fish on the ff? Was it a hook pull? Haven't hooked up on it yet but can't feel confident the stock hook set up is the best way to go. Opinions??
 

jollanes

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Did you see what ended up failing with the fish on the ff? Was it a hook pull? Haven't hooked up on it yet but can't feel confident the stock hook set up is the best way to go. Opinions??
I've seen people catch large fish on the stock assist-style hooks. However I personally change out to a large single in line hook.
 

Holi-e-Mackeral

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My buddy had the exact story fishing on the Pacific Queen during the tourney...

Female angler hooked up, 4 hours later lost the fish.. est 150#...

After that it was a dead day for them,

Jeff
 
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FishAcquisition

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Did you see what ended up failing with the fish on the ff? Was it a hook pull? Haven't hooked up on it yet but can't feel confident the stock hook set up is the best way to go. Opinions??
Was Last Chance (Awesome Shop with knowledgeable guys) a customer that was on the NL when they won a Tuna Tournet last week. He said these giant Blues are busting the Stock Hooks. Guys at Last Chance said that is common and that the hooks must be changed. Don't want to lose the maybe one chance for a #200 plus pounder.
 

rdrblck66

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Did you see what ended up failing with the fish on the ff? Was it a hook pull? Haven't hooked up on it yet but can't feel confident the stock hook set up is the best way to go. Opinions??
He was using a 250gr. With a single hook. Most of us were set up like that. I actually bought my Owner hooks from Anthony at Last Chance(Awesome Tackle Shop). The Guy had a Avet 50 on an all roller Meat Stick(perfect set up). But here's the lesson learned, your using a monster sized single hook this fish was pulling incredibly hard. So the hole in the fish were the hook is, is getting bigger. The fish finally turned and came towards the boat that's when the hook came out. I did not know this and I would of done the same thing but he had the reel in low gear and could not reel the line in fast enought so the line went slack. We were told by some very experienced Big Fish guys to keep the reel in high gear until the fish is vertical.
 

bentcalstar

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For whats been out there, whats the right gear? 2 Speed 100lb line? Besides a troll rod fishing 100lb my next set up is a 2 speed raptor fishing 80lb mono.
 

mike a.

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I was on the prowler for the tourney and we didn't see 1 bite all day long. was a long ass day but that's how it goes when fishing is slow..
 

Tunahead

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Way to give a go guys, all boats. That's fishing. More a regular year
this year, not a wide open El Nino year like the last few. Hell I haven't
been out yet, but finally off the DL next week. See you on Condor soon
when these damn tuna start biting. LOL
 
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Fished on the first sting and had about the same story. No takers early in the day then dead all day. Ran 200lb crimped to the flatfall with single jobs hook on heavy gear but no takers. Couldn't asked for better weather and ocean conditions.
 

fishfish

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Great report Greg !!! Always willing to share the knowledge.
THANKS!!!
 
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Highwayman

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My buddy had the exact story fishing on the Pacific Queen during the tourney...

Female angler hooked up, 4 hours later lost the fish.. est 150#...

After that it was a dead day for them,

Jeff
I was on the PQ when the female angler was hooked up. Unfortunately we drifted off the spot where the fish were biting long before she broke off. Most people quit fishing an hour or so into the hook up. The crew was yelling at everyone as she circled around the boat ( they would run with the rod, she was gassed and they assisted her by putting buckets under her to sit ) and I heard a lot of anglers say they were tired of getting yelled at and they quit fishing. It broke off at color near the gaff. I think the line failed not the flatfall.
 

Steve K

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Jan 2, 2005
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I would hope that a 4 hour fight would be ended a lot sooner but the angler asking for help or the crew intervening, especially if it were me. Leaving that fish, any fish, soaking that long is a recipe for failure.

Somebody, sooner or later, has to figure out the perfect rigging for those FlatFall jugs so they can start landing these fish instead of having so many of them chew through the line.

I was on The Prowler along with Mike. I'm convinced that I should be fishing these depths with measured line to pinpoint where I'm presenting my offering, whether it be jig or bait.
 

SCHeadhunter

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Four hours = not pulling hard enough. It's that simple. 80 pound 100 pound, you cannot pull hard enough to break it. Even 60 is pretty friken hard to break. Short heavy leader, quality hook. Most people don't pull hard enough, seen it over and over and over again.
Yes the bft are tough, but they are not that tough. And yea, we've caught a bunch of them.
 

FishAcquisition

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I would hope that a 4 hour fight would be ended a lot sooner but the angler asking for help or the crew intervening, especially if it were me. Leaving that fish, any fish, soaking that long is a recipe for failure.

Somebody, sooner or later, has to figure out the perfect rigging for those FlatFall jugs so they can start landing these fish instead of having so many of them chew through the line.

A guy on the New Lo An who got the 1st and 3rd in the tourney said he would go a
Foot or so of wire. He said he saw many of the 10 they lost just chewed through. I said "even the flat falls" he said these fish are so big the swallow them deep and just chew the line.
 

Steve K

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It's a heartbreaking thing to have a prolonged fight, only to get chewed off. Several attempts at survival and success have been tried with re-rerigging the jigs with wire, circle hooks, heavy mono or fluorocarbon, different hooks. On the Jig and Pop forum, check that.

But, I don't know who has it dialed in. Right now, advantage Bluefin.
 
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rdrblck66

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One other thing I noticed on that trip, I saw a lot of guys using 8' light rods and small single speed reels dropping Flat Falls. I know Heavy duty set ups are expensive but if your going on one of these trips either borrow or rent a Big Boy Set up because if you hook a monster on a light set up you are DOOMED!!
 

aguachico

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Anyone have the count for the the last Condor trip? They should have come off a 2.5 day this morning.
 

Cy Bodden

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One other thing I noticed on that trip, I saw a lot of guys using 8' light rods and small single speed reels dropping Flat Falls. I know Heavy duty set ups are expensive but if your going on one of these trips either borrow or rent a Big Boy Set up because if you hook a monster on a light set up you are DOOMED!!
I checked in alot of guys at H&M with wristbands and there was a ton of light gear.
 
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Azarkon

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Time for San Diego captains to bend over and swallow the losses. With the Mexican closures and now the slow tuna years coming up, it's going to be a long ride. The days of the fleet being sold out a month in advance are over...
 

afraser

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The bft bit in the dark. Our boat had 25 bites that day and we got 7 fish. If you want to have a high percentage of catching the bigger bft in flat falls you should rig a large circle hook directly to the end of the line and tie the flatfall to the bend in the circle hook. You won't get bit off and it's a perfect hook set every time. I used a 13/0 circle and got a 197lb to the boat after twice pulling out a gaff in 25 minutes.
 

jsl

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The bft bit in the dark. Our boat had 25 bites that day and we got 7 fish. If you want to have a high percentage of catching the bigger bft in flat falls you should rig a large circle hook directly to the end of the line and tie the flatfall to the bend in the circle hook. You won't get bit off and it's a perfect hook set every time. I used a 13/0 circle and got a 197lb to the boat after twice pulling out a gaff in 25 minutes.
Great idea. Can someone post a picture of this setup? Thanks

Scott
 
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Highwayman

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The bft bit in the dark. Our boat had 25 bites that day and we got 7 fish. If you want to have a high percentage of catching the bigger bft in flat falls you should rig a large circle hook directly to the end of the line and tie the flatfall to the bend in the circle hook. You won't get bit off and it's a perfect hook set every time. I used a 13/0 circle and got a 197lb to the boat after twice pulling out a gaff in 25 minutes.
Which boat, how many days? Thanks for the tip!
 

gettingbentwithbo

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Thanks for the report, I would also like to see a picture of that flat fall setup w/ the circle hook as mentioned above.