Commander Insurance Fraud Guilty Pleas

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Blackfish

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You were part of that previous thread. General thought was that the boat popped a plank. Once the boat refloated, we all knew there would be an investigation.

Yes, I was. What is your point?

I said unless posters had facts, there would be no speculation. I never guessed on what the cause was, but I did make it clear that any post that was pure speculation would be deleted.

The facts are in, so have at it. All I know is this, there are many lives that will be affected by this stupid illegal act, most are innocent. Kids, wives, business partners, deck crews......

If not allowing a lynch mob to develop on the original is a bad thing, then I have no problem being a bad guy.
 

jimm

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Dirt bags! Wonderful fishing vessel. That boat could jig albacore like no other except maybe the Pronto. Karma has come their way!
 

C-4 Fishing

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I'll admit it. I was wrong. I worked with them for a little while and put my trust in them.
Glad no one was hurt.
3 successful boats (2 fishing and 1 whale watching). Would love to hear the story of why.
 
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invictus

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Man, went from having a decent career and life to looking at Terminal Island, huge fines and maybe never ever being able to possess a skippers license again, ever.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
 
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J.AkuHed

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Wow, so sad! After a couple of great seasons, wonder what went so desperately wrong they had to stoop to this?
 

Brad I

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Wow, so sad! After a couple of great seasons, wonder what went so desperately wrong they had to stoop to this?
We're probably all curious.

But if someone is capable of making a decision like this, they are also capable of making bad decisions elsewhere, and might have needed the money to help deal with other bad decisions.
 

JohnnieB

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Ya pretty sure their coast guard lic. is revoked indefinitely. as co owner in the Eclipse I wonder what the ripple effects are going to be?
 

Vigilant32

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They are not the first and won't be the last to dump a vessel. They are the fools that got caught at an age old game.
 
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Yolo

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As several of you have mentioned, this is a real shame, sad. It seems that the entire environment at that Landing has gone downhill over the years. Only thing they have going for them is its easier to park. This year and moving forward, unless I am going on a 3/4 day I am going to just learn to deal with the Point Loma parking situation. What a waste.
 

Reel hip

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As several of you have mentioned, this is a real shame, sad. It seems that the entire environment at that Landing has gone downhill over the years. Only thing they have going for them is its easier to park. This year and moving forward, unless I am going on a 3/4 day I am going to just learn to deal with the Point Loma parking situation. What a shame

I agree its a stupid move and the ones affected most had nothing to do with it.

I don't ride sportboats often but have been on a few from time to time from that landing. I wouldn't lump all boats the same from Seaforth because one owner sank a boat though. Sounds like you had problems with others there?

Me, I haven't had any problems there
 
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jer dog

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Wow...went from having a license to maybe making license plates.
Not quite a lateral move career wise
its So Sad, because I Have Fished with Chris when
He was a Deck Hand on a Couple of Boat
and though he was a Straight up Guy
and always Polite at the Shows, he though Life Was tuff
before, the Path he has taking now is
Going to Be a lot Worst , he might even Get
to meet Bubba . and Don't drop the Soap.
 

4Bigeye2na

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Bad for all of us. The legit sportboat owners are all going to be facing higher insurance costs, after last years incidents. Which will get passed down to guess who?
 
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lynndeva

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Sometimes good people make bad decisions.


They obviously didn't think this through...unlike my douchebag neighbor who owns an HVAC company..he mysteriously has a flood about every 2 years in some part of his house (the part that hasn't been remodeled yet) via broken pipe, carpet cleaning guy left water running etc...his entire house is almost brand new now..remodeling each portion of his house, one flood insurance claim at a time.
 
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C-4 Fishing

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Feel bad for the guys that have days left from those purchased package deals. If they are broke enough to do something like this then they probably don't have enough $$$ to run their trip.
 

sealskinner

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Sad the spot these guys put themselves in. Made a very bad decision. Now everybody know's they are going to prison. Because they have to sell. They won't get shit for their boats. Somebody will get a bargain.
 

Otis2527

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As several of you have mentioned, this is a real shame, sad. It seems that the entire environment at that Landing has gone downhill over the years. Only thing they have going for them is its easier to park. This year and moving forward, unless I am going on a 3/4 day I am going to just learn to deal with the Point Loma parking situation. What a waste.
I would be hesitant to lump Seaforth and the other boats in the same category as these two guys. There are many hard working guys and boat owners at Seaforth IMHO.
 

"all-in"

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Wellllllll shit.
My wife and I have a trip scheduled with them on the 10th. I wonder if they can fish until the sentencing? I may have to call the landing and see if they know what's up and then file a claim with my credit card company to get my money back.

I have fished with Mark and Chris and always had a great time. Bummer to hear the news.
 

marlyn

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Wow,im saddened by this.I was on the boat a little before this happened when josh was running it and the deckie was telling me they were trying to sell but were way upside down after the refit and no one was interested at the price they needed.That old boat just didnt want to go to the bottom i guess.
 

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Wether they file fraud charges or not, this is going to cost them a bundle, just to defend themselves. So, so desperate and so very stupid. Most definitely, their sportboat reputations and lively hood are completely over. Beside, I think the only insurance they possible get now, would be from the "Lloyd's of London" if even there.
 
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