Coastguard Cocktail

Discussion in 'Washington Fishing Reports' started by Baby J, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. EJ Swanny

    EJ Swanny I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Full disclosure, I got sea-sick once when I woke up hung over on a shitty weather day at westport. That was 95. Not since. So I KNOW, the pain...

    What i feel sorry for is the crew that comes on the boat (no booze the night before) and are miserable. My cousin fishes NB and Gulf Islands with us every year. He has a great personality and is constantly making us laugh. When he starts falling silent, I know he's hurting. He's tried all the OTC stuff.

    We try and get him at the helm, breeze in the face, and concentrate on the FF/CP and driving the boat. It usually works.......keep the poor bugger with a cool breeze in their face, and tell them they are responsible for the boat. Get their mind off it and it works wonders.

    Be safe all............
     
  2. goatram

    goatram Notable Member Gate Keeper to the Great Northwest

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    In 1984 got sick in the back seat of a F-15B, 1985 got 4 rides in the back seat of the OV-10 Bronco. First 2 rides flew out and back to Osan AB ROK. The pilot was an old Major. Good no issues. The second set of rides was with a young AF LT. Had coffee and Pop Tarts. He did the first rocket pass without saying anything. Started to puke and continued after ever pass. 2.5 hr flight we landed at a Korean AB. Taught a 2hr class on how to load the weapons on the plane. They took me to the Korean chow hall. Got back and it's 95degrees and 100% humidity. LT scream that we had to leave now but I still had paperwork to do. 1/2hr later we are in the plane taxing to EOR. He looks in the rear view mirror and tellse to roll down my sleaves and zip up the flight suit. I did but as we started our roll I rolled them up and unzipped. Right away I'm hot and the plane only had 2inch ram air scoups for cooling. Not working. I'm sweating and then the rocket passes started. An hour into the flight I got no more puke. I ask the pilot to land on the road below. He declined wanted me to fly the plane. Fuck the plane I want out of it. 10 mins later it got real for him. I toldhito to land or I was punching out. Half hour later we landed at Osan and the aidcar meet us at EOR. He shut off the port engine and they pulled me out. And put the IV in me. 2 bags later they let me out of the base hospital. The planes Crewchief had clean the back seat out. Never more did I fly in a fighter. Cool but my inner ear said fuck that shit.

    Got a little ribbing at work after that. I take my 4mg scopace and I'm happy. Wounded Warriors get offered a pill if they want it. In 2009 the Sunday after the party I was supposed to have 2 guys go out. One was sick from the day before. The other was sick for most of the morning. Did not want to quit so we fished and he looked bad at noon time.

    My son pukes ever morning as soon as we start trolling for tuna then he's good for the rest.of the day. Baby J I feel for.you.
     
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  3. critterkiller

    critterkiller AKA Cohobankie

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    One Bonine the night before you leave, one in the morning, no alcohol the night before, sleep, good to go. Day two take a half in the morning. Scopo patch really can put you out. Cheap insurance.
     
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  4. FINATIC 21

    FINATIC 21 MAD SALMON

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  5. KimH

    KimH Someday I'll live the dream.

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    I've never been seasick but have been around a lot of people that get sick.
    The best way to conquer it is just go fishing everyday. Unless you are one of the rare chronic types you'll get used to it.
     
  6. Roll the Bones

    Roll the Bones Dr. Fong

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    I just hit the pipe and that seems to work, a little Meth does the trick every time and no drowsiness.
     
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  7. TonyG

    TonyG I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Nice prescription Dr Fong!
     
  8. Baby J

    Baby J Member

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    Please tell me you guys are joking lol
     
  9. TonyG

    TonyG I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    About the meth? Yes. About the coors? HELL NO. I suppose I might not get sick if I didn't drink coors but I've not tried that experiment yet.
     
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  10. Roll the Bones

    Roll the Bones Dr. Fong

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    How do you know I'm not joking about the Meth?
     
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  11. TonyG

    TonyG I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Fair!
     
  12. wdlfbio

    wdlfbio Once you go Cat, you never go back

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    Cause we all know that you don’t have a sense of humor. Duh.
     
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  13. Kool-Aid

    Kool-Aid Well-Known "Member"

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    Scopace can be compoundedinto a capsule by a compounding pharmacy. It has been my go-to way since they discontinued the pill.

    I don't get tired on it but dry mouth can be a side effect
     
  14. ChuyG

    ChuyG Member

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    I feel your pain, as I get motion sickness all the time. I almost quit fishing because of it. EJ is spot on regarding the pharmaceuticals. Here is what has worked for me.
    1. Transderm Scop a full 24 hours before getting on the boat. The patch directions state that a minimum of 4 hours before the getting on the boat but that didn't work for me.
    2. Meclizine 50 mg 2 hours before boarding. It makes me pretty drowsy, but most of the time I am going out the boat is leaving at night and fishing all day (overnight and 1-1/2 boats).
    3. As mentioned above, don't eat anything greasy or dehydrating (alcohol, caffeine, etc) before going out.
    4. Hydrate really well before going out. I pretty much drink enough water to keep my urine almost clear or pale yellow.
    5. Diet: I pack my own food. Some of the boats make absolutely killer good food, but one of those breakfast burritos will have me chumming the entire trip. I bring my own version of onigiri - basically rice balls. My wife is Asian and she makes up a bunch of rice balls with some tuna salad in the middle. I wrap them individually in plastic wrap and eat them throughout the day even if I am not hungry. I also take plenty of crackers that I snack on all day long. Again, hunger isn't the issue. Keeping that gut moving is what is important. Finally, I take lemon or sour candy. I read that sour things can get the gut moving. It works for me but I couldn't find any definitive studies on it.
    6. Misc: Promethazine is one of the more potent antiemetics but the drowsiness makes it tough to tolerate. That's why it is often coupled with a stimulant like ephedrine or caffeine. I tried it but not only did I feel out of it, I still got sick. It wasn't worth it to me. I've heard people say that Zofran has worked well for them, but studies have shown that it doesn't really work too well for motion sickness. It didn't work for me, but I'd take it if it did regardless of the studies. I do use ginger. The navy did a few studies with mixed results but I take 2 gm of ginger before going out then again when I get up to start fishing.
    I still get sick but not as much as I used to. I hope you find that magic combo that works for you. And like some of the other guys have said, keep fishing regardless! Good luck!
     
  15. KickinIt

    KickinIt Newbie

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    Good call. There are 3 frugal burgers on the bottom of the Pacific with my name on them. They tasted so much better on the way down.
     
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  16. writebrian

    writebrian ... and I'm 6'5"

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    I have been a chronically seasick guy since I started scuba diving in 1995. Have tried everything mentioned in this thread at some point or another with mixed results (Scopace was best). I recently found a product called Sturgeron on the sailing forums on the internet. Seasickness is completely gone and zero side affects. No dry mouth, no drowsiness... nothing!

    Problem is you can't buy it in the USA. I bought dozens of pills on a trip to Thailand and haven't looked back. If you can find it, it is the answer.
     
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  17. WaveDancer

    WaveDancer Fishing The Pacific Ocean & Puget Sound Since 1969

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    Any idea what the hell is in it?

    WD.
     
  18. writebrian

    writebrian ... and I'm 6'5"

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    Active ingredient is Cinnarizine... 15-25mg. It's available as a generic too. Sturgeron is a brand name like Bonine or Dramamine
     
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  19. ChuyG

    ChuyG Member

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    Stugeron is an antihistamine. The generic name is cinnarzine, I think. It is widely available outside of the US. Some have reported that it is fairly equivalent to meclizine, but I've never tried it.
    Add: I just looked it up and it is available in Mexico as "Cinarizina 75 mg tabs." I'll be in cancun next month and will pick some up and post about it afterwards.
     
  20. writebrian

    writebrian ... and I'm 6'5"

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    That's the one! Keep dosage in the 25mg range and take same frequency as you would Meclizine. The stuff is fabulous!

    Dramamine is also an antihistamine. Antiemetic relief is a side effect of most antihistamines and many antidepressants.
     

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