Choosing The Right Hook

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What is the best hook for flylining a sardine?

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  1. Joe Nelson

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    So I've been really thinking about my hook selection. My go-to has been the Owner Mutu Circle hook. I'm mainly focused on the yellowtail and bluefin bite right now. If you visit the Owner Hooks website they do have a few recommendations for hooks targeting those species. I'm considering trying the Flyliner instead of the Mutu. My main concern is how well the bait, sardine, swims. I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on this subject. https://www.ownerhooks.com/hooks_by_species_region.html
     
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    I like Mustad hooks myself but have Owner mutu circle hooks. I myself have both circle and J hooks in different sizes depending on the bait size.
     
  3. Hugo Bendo

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    Mustad Demon 3X 1/0
     
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  4. bob1825

    bob1825 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I have hooks of various sizes and manufacturers. Deciding which to use depends on the bait, what we are targeting and how the fish are biting.
     
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    Owners are large for their size. If they recommend a 2/0 then go with a 3/0 Mustad/Gamakatsu/EC. For the current BFT bite I've been using the Mustad 2/0 3x circles.
     
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    I pretty much strictly fish the ringed flyliner hooks for yellows.

    But I like to butt hook baits a lot and feel the J hook works better for that.

    The dines swim just fine, at least I don't feel I have a problem getting bit if I have a good bait as long as I have the right size hook for the bait.

    Fish the J hook like you would a circle hook and you will be surprised that you actually get a lot of really nice hook sets.

    I also like to pull pretty hard and have not had an issue with the hooks at all on yellows to 30#. But I fish mono top shots.

    I don't do a whole lot of tuna fishing, but have fished the flyliners for tuna in the past (again for better butt hooking) and really havent had an issue with poor hooksets and getting sawed off.
     
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  7. maxpowers

    maxpowers Well-Known "Member"

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    Shoulder hook bait with size 1 or size 1/0 bronze mustard works fine for me
     
  8. albacore11

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    Go to is the 2/0 ringed flyliner.....always works for me. When in doubt, I always get the deckies’ opinion. Of course the size of the bait is a major consideration.
     
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    I too butt hook alot of baits... I like a short shank J hook for that... I prefer Owner Gorillas... or Gorilla Lights. I tend to have issues butt hooking a bigger bait with a ringed circle hook. Sometimes you almost have to wedge the bait into the hook gap before going through. Or you miss your spot completely...
     
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    I will have to give a shorter shanked J hook a shot. Makes sense.

    I like the gorilla lights better, that normal gorilla hooks are so fucking thick.

    Yeah butt hooking and circle hooks just don't work well together. It can be done, but sometimes you ruin a bait, and I feel like that just lowers your odds, what if that bait was the one? Feel like its quicker and easier on the bait to butt hook with a J hook.

    I have quite a few friends that tuna fish a lot and have had good success with j hooks. I forget who it was, but I read an article whole ago and the author who had worked on long range boats talked about using J hooks and out fishing folks using circles. As long as you wind into it and don't swing for the fences. Might have been brandon hayward. But I don't quite remember.
     
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    I usually butt hook with circles because it's too hard to shoulder hook them. I don't want to nose hook for finicky BFT... they don't look as natural looking over their shoulder all the time.
     
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    hahahaha... so true... the way I look at it is would you rather run full speed with a hook in your ass or a hook in your nose??? I think the Dines' feel the same way... LOL
     
  13. SouthBayKiller

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    I find the easiest way to butt/shoulder hook with a circle is to grab the hook at the bend in the shank of a circle a little behind the barb and push the point into the bait like a needle.

    I've had luck with all brands, but I prefer the mustads when possible, I just like the gap between the point and the shank is larger than the same sized mutu. The shape is "rounder".

    If possible, I use cheap J hooks for yellows. They don't have teeth.
     
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    Same same.

    I feel Owner has too small a gap on some of their hooks, the smaller sizes in particular. I like the mutu circles for bigger BFT hooks.

    Don't need gucci hooks for yellows. Mustad j hooks have killed more fish than anything else.
     
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    I'm a mustard guy for most anything in our local waters.
     
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