Changing Over From Mono To Braid Question

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  1. tloucks

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    I have decided because of the advantages to change over to braid and this will be my first time using it, any will be using it primarily for rock fish. So I have a couple of questions.

    1. Is spectra and braid the same thing?
    2. My reel holds about 300 yds. of #30 mono so what weight spectra should I load on?
    3. Would anyone have a ball park price to fill this reel?
    4. I plan on filling the reel with spectra and then using a 15' to 25' top shot is the the right way to do it?

    Any ideas or input is appreciated.

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    # 1 yes it is the same
    # 2 I use 65 # jb spectra white because it's easier for me to see and I like how smoothe it feels. it should take about 400 yds.
    # 3 depends where you go to fill it up.
    # 4 sounds good I use a double uni knott 8 turns on the spectra side and 6 turns on the mono or flouro
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    Im glad I ran into this thread Tom, thank you...

    I have a similar question in regards to using spectra for rock fishing. When someone says they use spectra to bottom fish, does it mean straight spectra all the way through, or with a top shot. I have seen people fish waxwings for calico bass with straight spectra, is it the same concept?

    Thank you in advance for the help!



     
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    Use a top shot so you can tie dropper loops or attach jigs. Or you can make ganions and just tie them to the braid. Uni/uni knot is the way to go. You might want to use a heavier line for the topshot. You might get chewed off on 15-25# if you get a big red or ling cod. 30-40# would be better. To fill the reel, you are probably looking at $50, maybe less. You could get some inexpensive Dyneema braid off eBay, I've seen a few people say good things about it. It's not as good as JB or PP, but you are only using it for bottom fishing.
     
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    Thanks Jason, so most of my reels have 50-65lb backing on them already thatI use for offshore fishing, so that being said, what is the ideal length Ishould use as a top shot? I know there might be snags and such, so what do you recommend?10, 20, 30 ft? or something even shorter?

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    I like my top shots shot as in 10' or less. I am using the spectra so i can feel everything. The more mono the less feel you get. Spectra knots are different then mono knots. I use a 6 or 7 turn uni for mono and a 14 turn for spectra.
     
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    you either want to run a short 3-5ft leader or a little longer 20ft, otherwise the knot just gets caught up on the guides all the time. you probably want to go with 65# braid to the brim and dont use a uni to uni, look up a tony pena or bob sands knot a lot stronger cleaner knot
     
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    Thanks guys, all is appreciated!
     
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    I go albright, and yes typically you can you use the same rig for spectra there are a few reels and applications where the spectra might get caught in the gap inbetween the spool and the frame but for rockfishing i would rig it with 65 pound power pro yellow and but a 20 foot topshot of lighter line that can easily break off in case you get stuck on the bottom, or a 3 foot section of heavy line and a jig and just try to wiggle it out or straighten your hooks
     
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    20ft is great because it allows you to retie your loops quicker if your weight or something breaks off. You are going to feel a big fish even if you have all mono, Short top shots are going to allow you to feel the 1/2 pounders easier. If you get stuck on the rocks; go into free spool, let some slack out, engage, try pulling it out of the rocks, repeat. If you want to ward off the tiny ones (supposing you aren't targeting whitefish or perch) use a 4/0 or 6/0 circle.
     
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    I prefer using a top shot less then 10 feet because it will provide less stretch and give you a better feel for the bite. Especially when rock fishing sometimes the bite will feel very slight with a lot of mono in the water.

    Regarding knots there are tons of knots that everyone has their preference. I prefer to learn a knot that is simple to tie and can be done on a rocking boat. Plus I don't have time to learn all different types of knots for the same purpose. Personally I use the Tony Pena knot. Easy to tie, travels through the rod guides very well and has proven its strength when I was playing tug-o-war with a sea lion for a yellowtail.
     

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