Changes: New Long Range Destinations and Radio Silence...

Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by vegasandre, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. vegasandre

    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    A Strange New World.

    With all the Talk of the closure of the Buffer Zone and continued expansion of various marine parks it would seem that new fishing destinations for the longer trips would need to eventually be identified if these longer trips will continue to be viable.

    Not only with these destinations have to be identified but there will probably have to be agreements/permits in place with the local authorities to fish these location without prejudice.

    Currently there are a 3 boats out there right now in the zone. The daily reports have ceased, The FB posts have ceased. All Social media communication has ceased. My guess is this is pre-meditated and they are going to keep silent and instruct their passengers to do the same until something can be figured out.

    Is this going to be the new normal?

    It was always the reports , stories/lore that brought many of us to our original shared passion of loving LR fishing. It was how the fishery built their book of business in the first place.

    Maybe the pictures of dead fish lying everywhere helped contribute to the reality we are now in. Maybe it speeded up the process. But without some of that, Many LR businesses could die a quicker death.

    I am sure there will be viable new options in the future....

    Maybe it will be new zones not fished before, maybe it will be known locations that we can fish with local permission.
    A new seamount, PV, Panama , Costa Rica? there are options.

    Whatever or wherever it is ,I hope this sorts itself out as I am concerned.
     
  2. RichG

    RichG Well-Known "Member"

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    Keep your pants on, it could be the WiFi isn’t working down there. We’ll know soon enough.
     
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  3. Throw Iron

    Throw Iron Newbie

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    Given the current situation, I have no problem with the LR boats and customers laying low for awhile on social media. It's a smart move if that's indeed what they are doing. No need to throw gas on the fire!
     
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  4. Cubeye

    Cubeye I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Perhaps WiFi is part of the problem? Too much "classified" information going out on the net? That's probably why some of the long range boats didn't bother to install WiFi on their boats.
     
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  5. Fishybuzz

    Fishybuzz fishybuzz

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    I agree...
     
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  6. hucklongfin

    hucklongfin Deep release specialist

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    The Excel posted that the satellite that covers the area down south has gone offline and they don't have a time/date when it'll be back up.
     
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  7. MikeyLikesIt

    MikeyLikesIt did you say F I S H I N G ???

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    more so than you know. I know on the boat I ride alot, the captain ALWAYS encourages his clients to be careful about what gets posted to social media.....for this very reason. I'm usually disappointed to see how many of the passengers completely ignore him.....
     
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  8. Bill W

    Bill W tunaholic

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    Well... they are somewhere. And they are doing their best to perform with the hand that is dealt. Got to believe the code FM radio between the boats are not silenced. Personally not a big fan of dead fish photos, but I do like to see the smiles of the angler. Gee... what door will open next.
     
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  9. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Never mind
     
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  10. talltales

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    I've heard the same thing. Gotta start in our own house before we can point the finger at someone else.
     
  11. Bill W

    Bill W tunaholic

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    What boat captain... most pictures posted are rail shots line ups and stand ups taken by the skipper and posted on the boat’s website.
     
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  12. SouthBayKiller

    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Its a catch 22, captains want to be known as fish killers and also conservationists at the same time.
     
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  13. DMcD

    DMcD Well-Known "Member"

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    I could be wrong, but wasn't it around the time when they first closed down the RG islands to fishing that some boats started scouting around and Randy "discovered" the potential of the Toussaint (sp?) Bank? Its a BIG ocean, and if boats have to start scouting for new destinations, there's no telling what currently untapped resources might be found. For my part, I think it would be exciting to ride some exploratory trips...check out new places...never knowing what you're going to find. They can't all have been discovered...yet.

    DMcD
     
  14. DC61

    DC61 Well-Known "Member"

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    I agree that it will require some scouting to find new places to fish. The real question is whether or not the average long ranger will be patient while the skippers are "scouting". With the price of a long range ticket being in the neighborhood of $400 per day, I believe many will not be quite so patient. Additionally, looking around will likely burn more fuel. This coupled with the democrats raising fuel prices are going to be a big hurdle for the fleet.
    I love long range fishing and I too am concerned about the fleet. I think now is the time for the boats to band together and quit all of the code group crap and excluding the Intrepid and anyone else they don't like. Those guys need to work together and save the fleet. This means they need to cover water. If nothing else, they are eliminating "bad" water and high spots. Working together the fleet can find new spots.
    I don't care which boat catches fish. The reports get us anglers teased up to jump on our favorite boat. Take for example the recent Bluefin bite on the 6o mile bank. Who knows )or cares) who started the bite. All I know is virtually every boat in the fleet was filled at a time of year when many are tied to the dock. It was a great shot in the arm. Heck, several long range boats added day and a half trips that were not even on the books.
    These guys need to work together ALL OF THEM and hopefully they can endure through this really tough time. We all will continue to benefit from the best sport fishing operation in the world.
     
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  15. DH10

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    I have 2 freezers full tuna, salmon, elk, pheasant grouse, bighorn sheep and other assorted game and fish that my wife and I have killed. So I am not some enviro/greenie/vegan type. But I have got say, the photos from long range trips with literally tons of dead fish stacked up on the deck have always reminded me of he old photos of guys standing in front a huge pile of dead bison. It looks bad.....
     
  16. Bud B

    Bud B Fear the Kraken

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    It don't look bad...it is bad.

    What time is dinner?
     
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  17. rdrrm8e

    rdrrm8e Fucking Stan

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    There used to be a board on here that was.......errrrrr.......kinda low profile....kinda hidden....kinda by invite only.

    Might make sense for a LR board. Info can be shared to other interested peeps
     
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  18. craigen

    craigen Got Spooled

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    DC61, I believe the fleet has already banded together for many years under the auspices of SAC. I'm confident that their negotiations will result in positive outcomes for all stakeholders. I'm grateful to be able to fish Guadalupe again in large part due to their efforts. Cheers...
     
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  19. tcroach

    tcroach Newbie

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    This bothered me on my last multi day trip, as I saw anglers completely ignore that captain's strong recommendation to avoid Social Media and keep things quiet. When those pictures are posted where folks that do not understand the conservation and care behind it does not turn out well.
     
  20. Bud B

    Bud B Fear the Kraken

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    Fisherman are braggers first, then common sense may kick in.

    No man who has caught a big fish takes it home through the ally. He walks down main street with his chest feathers puffed all the fuck up.
     

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