Cedros bait trolling setup

Fedge101

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  • Jul 7, 2019
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    Headed to Cedros in a couple weeks.
    When slow trolling do you use a mono top shot or “kelp cutter” (braid straight to short floro leader)?
    I normally fish a mono top shot for the stretch but because the water is shallow and there’s kelp just wondering if that’s the best setup.
    I’ll be fishing a jx Raptor with 65 braid and Phenix 7’8” 40-100 rated rod. I have 60 & 80 floro to bring.
     
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    hucklongfin

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    I'll be there in two weeks for my 6th time. My JX Raptor has 400 yds of 65# braid with a 50# mono topshot. Never had a problem with that rigging. My surface iron rigs just have 3-4' mono leader.
     
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    Fedge101

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    I'll be there in two weeks for my 6th time. My JX Raptor has 400 yds of 65# braid with a 50# mono topshot. Never had a problem with that rigging. My surface iron rigs just have 3-4' mono leader.
    Thanks for the info. Same setup (dual purpose) for yo-yo fishing? Trying to limit weight/number of setups or do you bring a dedicated yo-yo setup in addition?
     
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    hilltop

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    sold, pangas, Intrepid, and diggin the RRIII
    I've always brought 4 setups, though easily could do it with 3 as well. I bring: triple duty troll/yoyo/sabiki stick, Jigstick, bass rod, flyline outfit (40/50lb)


    ahhhhh Cedros!
     
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    hucklongfin

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    Thanks for the info. Same setup (dual purpose) for yo-yo fishing? Trying to limit weight/number of setups or do you bring a dedicated yo-yo setup in addition?
    I use the JX Raptor/ UC Predator 76 for yo-yo, flyline, slow trolling. I’m taking 2 for surface iron/hard baits/plastics… TranX 500 HG/Phenix psw909xhj and a Lexa TW 400H-P/Psw909xh.
     
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    Fedge101

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    I use the JX Raptor/ UC Predator 76 for yo-yo, flyline, slow trolling. I’m taking 2 for surface iron/hard baits/plastics… TranX 500 HG/Phenix psw909xhj and a Lexa TW 400H-P/Psw909xh.
    Very similar to what my plan is.
    Also bringing Tranx 500 for irons/snipers and Lexa 400 for swim baits/calicos.
    Appreciate everyone’s feedback!
     
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    fshrprsns

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    Been there more than once. Have yet had to troll, or even use bait. If you can yoyo and cast a surface iron, you’re good to go. The yellows will do the rest. If you do decide to troll, my vote would be to have a buffer of mono. They are aggressive and hit hard.
     
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    Fatrat310

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    I just got back from my 5th trip out there.. i always run a short Floro to braid leader. I took 4 set ups and glad i did


    Calstar CC90j with tesoro 12 (iron, stickbait)
    UC Reaper. With Diawa Saltiga 35 (iron,stickbaits)
    UC swimbait Fanatics with Tranx 400 (bass and halibut)
    Calstar gftr 700h with Avet MXL Raptor (yoyo, troll)

    Fishing was great and limited on Halibut and Yellows 2/3 days
     
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    Fedge101

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    I just got back from my 5th trip out there.. i always run a short Floro to braid leader. I took 4 set ups and glad i did


    Calstar CC90j with tesoro 12 (iron, stickbait)
    UC Reaper. With Diawa Saltiga 35 (iron,stickbaits)
    UC swimbait Fanatics with Tranx 400 (bass and halibut)
    Calstar gftr 700h with Avet MXL Raptor (yoyo, troll)

    Fishing was great and limited on Halibut and Yellows 2/3 days
    So why 2 different iron/stickbait setups?
    One dedicated for halibut?
     
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    hucklongfin

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    For bait I use Eagle Claw 8/0 L2005. Not too big for Mac’s. I’ve had guys make fun of them then bum some off of me!
     
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    Fatrat310

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    I did keep the reaper tied up to a nomad slidekick. Which worked out great when they were midway in the water column.. its a 4.5oz jig so it sinks more than a regular surface iron. I caught quite a few fish on it
     
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    hucklongfin

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    No, i took Two jig sticks to have 2 different irons on hahaha..
    That’s why I’m taking 2 jig sticks this year. One for heavier 7x and JRI 4’s and the other for lighter Tady 45’s and C’s plus stickbaits and swimbaits.
     
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    jbmiranda14

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    Lowe fishing machine
    I fished down there about 2 weeks ago. 1/3 yellows on surface iron/stickbaits, the other 2/3 on yoyo (6x JR!), limits every day. Never trolled once and only made bait after the AM yellowtail bite was done so that we could fish halibut and BSB the rest of the day (calicos would have been a way better use of our fishing time).

    You definitely don't need a heavy yoyo rig; we were in pretty shallow water. Fish with a coomfortable rig. My panaga captain was slaying them on a FS 800L and a Fathom 25N with about 100 yds of #50 mono lol.

    I took:
    -UC swimbait finatic/Tranx 400 (bass, stickbaits)
    -UC Delmar/Tranx 500 (surface iron)
    -PCH 761XH/Andros 12nsii (yoyo)
    -RCJB 84Xh/Andros 12ii (BSB)

    All rigged with #65 braid and a short piece of fluoro or mono. My biggest yellow took me into the kelp so the kelp cutter rigging came in handy. Same for a couple very large BSB caught by my group.
     
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    Fedge101

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    Wanted to follow up on this in case others are going/wondering.
    For trolling live bait I used my JX Raptor paired with a 7'8" Phenix Axis X2H (this rod is normally paired with my Talica-16 60lb) with 65 braid and I spooled 25 yds of 60 floro. All of our bigger fish (25-35 lbs) were on the troll; plenty of smaller yellows on irons.
    I can tell you that I needed everything this setup offered; these fish were mean! Every single fish at some point took me into the kelp and I'm glad I had 60 lb and a bit heavier rod. I did get broken off on a big one in the kelp!
    My son had a Talica 16 with 80 mono and it worked well. These fish were not line shy at all. Good luck to all who are headed down there!
     
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