Camping with Grizzlies and Wolves What Gun?

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Going to camp in our truck next year in the wilds of Montana outside of Yellowstone. I am told to be ready for visits from bears or wolves. What might be a reasonable long gun to bring and keep in the camper?
 

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Have something on your hip too, Grizzly? the biggest handgun you have that you can shoot accurate!
 
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Agree the 45-70 has all the stopping power to halt a grizzly,the recoil is too much of an ass kicker to consistently fire and practice with.
What other options are more shooter friendly.
 
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Make the handgun a .44 mag or more if you have it....
 

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I just found an article about the top 9 gun guides carry in Alaska as a back -up gun for Brown bears. Aside from the expensive hunting rifles and hand guns, the two most common an effective guns listed were the Marlin lever action 45-70 and a tactical-style pump action 12 gauge with double 00 or slugs such as the 870. The shot gun seems like a good solution. It is inexpensive, there is plenty of ammunition readily available light loads to practice with and with 00 there is a good chance of hitting the target.
Any thoughts?
 
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I like the idea of a 870. Way better chance of hitting the target. I saw some interesting new loads that are combination slug/buck shot that might be a great round for this.

Last summer we spent a few days up in glacier right after a bear attack. Everyone was carrying bear spray. No joke we saw kids as young as five or six carrying huge cans of bear spray. Way bigger danger of an accidental discharge than a bear attack when you stay on the main road. Haha.
 
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A 44 mag on the hip and a Mossberg 590a1 loaded with slugs and, just to be sure, a bayonet mounted.
 
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Bear spray is just like tobasco sauce on eggs to them.

Wolves are quick, so I would consider a smaller semi-auto on the hip for them.
 
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I have never had to use it, but I do like my Glock 20 in 10 mm for a few reasons. It's a Glock so you don't care what happens to it in the field, near indestructible or so I think. Also it holds 10 rounds which is 4-5 more than most large caliber revolver. Lastly it's got near 41 mag ballistics so not a 44mag but better than 357.

44 mag is definitely the most popular choice.

No matter what you choose for hand gun...hard cast bullets and heavier grain size.
 
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12 g with slugs and 45 Long colt with 300 grain hardcast lead. HPs will ball up in the fur. I have SW mountain gun in 45 colt. Camp with someone older and slower than you is my best advice.
 

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As calguns would say a glock and three 30 round mags. LOL, seriously been there done that many times over. Shotgun and or 44 mag or 45 colt or larger.
 

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Has a wolf ever attacked a human in recent times near Yellowstone?
First off bear spray will be my first defense for any aggressive animal, however if bear is charging me breaking into my camper the spray he gets in his nose will have an 00 attached to it.
There appears to be no known wolf attacks on a human in the United States in recent history. I am a dog lover and with wolves being in same family they are dear to my hear. We are looking forward to seeing wolves. Unfortunately wolves have become habituated to humans. If we feel threatenen they will first get a snoot full of caspian and perhaps a big boom. But if need be I will be prepared
 

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I have spent many days camping and hunting in both Alaska and Montana and have never had a problem. Keep your camp clean and keep your guard up and you will be fine. If you had to use a firearm your idea of the shotgun is probably the best.
 
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BAR in .338 or the like. You want something that tosses a big chunk of lead, is reliable and fast shooting. If your concern is recoil you can get it ported, etc.
 
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Bring a dog they will let you know when something is up.
A good fixed blade knife is a must on your hip.
What ever you do don't run never turn your back.......unless your wearing a backpack for them to chew on.
 
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For wolves, a loud voice and a rock....they don't look at people as food or a threat typically.

If you would be comfortable protecting your life by shooting a 1000 pound forest monster, that does consider people as food, with a sub sonic 32 caliber pistol 8 times.....then by all means, get 00 buck for a grizzly. But in my opinion, you may as well leave the gun at home and just rely on pepper spray if you are afraid of recoil.

Hunting guides in AK don't use buck shot as a back up to protect themselves or their clients...they use large caliber, high velocity rifles or slug guns for a reason.
 
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Reality, rather than macho big man talk here.

Step 1. Buy a $85 12vdc fence charger' like a patriot P5. Plug it into your truck and fence off your camp. If you're gonna be driving your truck, just make a big gate for it and bring a spare battery. Electricity will keep both out.

Step 2. Keep your camp clean. Don't give them a reason to approach camp.

Step 3. Pepper spray. If you carry a pistol, make sure to file the front site smooth. It'll make it easier to remove from your ass. Stats show that most folks can't hit shit when under stress such as a charging bear. Pepper spray covers a larger area, less need for accuracy. Neither pistol or spray is perfect though. 00 buck from a semi auto makes more sense, but heavy if your hunting and already carrying gear and a gun.

Step 4. Keep your camp cleaner.

Step 5. Don't wear a bacon jacket

There are very few reported wolf attacks on humans and even fewer documented. You'll have more of a chance of being struck by lightening while getting eaten by a shark. When/if you see a bear, don't see how close you can get to it. Let it know y'all are there and just slowly back away. Take lots of pics :)
 
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