Offshore Call for bluefin tuna carcasses AND late report from the 371

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bayparkboogie

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NOAA is not a friend of fisherman in any way, shape, or form. They have consistently shown they are NOT on our side -- that they are against us. And they may be gathering data for science, but they have consistently restricted fishing far beyond what is necessary with no scientific basis. If you read into what they've done with the East coast's red snapper regulations, your blood would boil. And didn't they come completely out of the blue with an 80% reduction in the BFT limits just a year or two ago?


Why on God's green Earth would we give them a damn thing, when all they want to do is keep us off the water? Screw NOAA.



Besides that, awesome job on those gorgeous fish!
Rabid Fish speaks the truth! NOAA is not on your side, as a Sportfisherman, whatsoever!
 
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bayparkboogie

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NOAA is not a friend of fisherman in any way, shape, or form. They have consistently shown they are NOT on our side -- that they are against us. And they may be gathering data for science, but they have consistently restricted fishing far beyond what is necessary with no scientific basis. If you read into what they've done with the East coast's red snapper regulations, your blood would boil. And didn't they come completely out of the blue with an 80% reduction in the BFT limits just a year or two ago?


Why on God's green Earth would we give them a damn thing, when all they want to do is keep us off the water? Screw NOAA.



Besides that, awesome job on those gorgeous fish!
why is mortality not in the equation?
Junk Science
 
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sickcat

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why is mortality not in the equation?
Junk Science
Why do you say that mortality is not used in population studies? I am no biologist but read quite a bit on the studies done on our local gamefish and from what I read mortality IS factored in research on population and recruitment studies.
Only problem I see with the work Owen was/is doing is the quantity of the sampling certainly not the scientific method used. Here is a link to some similar work on local BFT/Albacore/Bonito diets with a bigger sampling albiet from the late 1960s:
http://content.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt8290062w&brand=calisphere&doc.view=entire_text
Although you may not agree IMO when there is a lack of real science logically one would factor in all the known info on the biology and add factors such as economic impact (which NOAA does) then choose a plan to conserve the resource as much as possible. That gives the best chance for a healthy resource.
It would be great if NOAA had the funding to do all the research needed to give us answers to all the unknowns about BFT. Given the complexity of the factors it woukd be a bunch of money and even then it would take time.
For those who say that the BFT resource is fine based on the last 2 years of great fishing here in SoCal your missing the fact that it seems many fish populations flucuate greatly over decades even centuries with no impact from man. Sardines are a good example:
http://www.calcofi.org/publications/calcofireports/v33/Vol_33_Baumgartner_etal.pdf
https://phys.org/news/2017-02-methods-discern-extreme-fluctuations-forage.html
As the forage goes so goes all those who depend on it. While Owens sampling may be limited it seems in line witht the previous work done in the first link I gave.
In the past too many fisheries have been managed based on commercial take and action was only taken when a serious decline had already happened. A piss poor way to do it. With work such as Owen's and others we are finally starting to manage fisheries proactively which give the best chance at MSY (maximum sustainable yield). Sardine closures last few seasons as an example. An offshoot of proactive mnagment is bigger populations overall and that my friend gives sportfishermen a better shot of increased catches.
 
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