Discussion in 'Fishing Chit Chat' started by Alexander Aleman, Feb 15, 2018.
I would like to see them try black sea bass again.
NPR put the article up in lights
https://thefern.org/ published the article
http://www.leschin-hoar.com/clips.htm a food writer cobbled the article together.
They had me until..."And, as climate change brings with it changes in ocean conditions..."
Every entity involved in this article has eco-nazi sympathies.
Yup...no 50# tankers along the South Coast....nothing to see....move along.
A couple of years ago I made a video about one of the seabass releases. Check it out if your interested. Does all this money and hard work make a difference? It's hard to say but what's for sure is 1% is better than 0%. I wonder what 1% of the seabass population is in number? It's probably alot more individual fish than it sounds. In any case if you have the time, come on out and help out with one of the releases. It might change your mind if you think the program is a waste of time and an entire failure.
Kinda like purse pooch dogs trying to be friendly with Coyotes.
Guys, the WSB hatchery program is 100% warm/fuzzy PR plain and simple. It's also 99% ineffective in helping the wild WSB population.
"State Probing Experimental Hubbs Fish Breeding Program That's Spawned Deformities, Mixed Results"
This article here is gives a skeptical look at the results. Admittedly, it seems to be crafted as sort of a hit piece on the commercial aquaculture ambitions of the program (yes, you as a recreational fisherman are paying for the HSWRI hatchery to assess the feasibility of WSB and Halibut commercial aquaculture, it's in the fine print). But it also contains some dismal assessments from CA DFW's top fish pathologist Mark Okihiro
Final fact: Did you know the recapture rates on adult WSB tagged by PIER were as high as 30%? So why is the recapture rate on Hubbs fish 1%? Probably because at least 50% of released fish died within 2 weeks being released because they were born DEFORMED.
According to my face to face direct question to The Hubbs/ Sea World WSB honcho(s) the rate of hatchery fish to returned heads is 1:470......
Thats less than one quarter of one percent....
You draw your own conclusions if the program is worth funding. I drew mine years ago.
Between the money going to that and sea lion rescue .......
NO SENJOUIR, The fish went to Mexico. No returned heads from there! Factor that in why don’t you. Fish are just like you and I. They like Mexican food as well!!!!!
THAT'S IT!!! BUILD A WALL!!! Keep those WSB here!!
The money spent on this would be much better spent buying out the rest of the net boats and suing the dumb-asses rehabilitating sea lions.JMHO
When Gill nets fish one mile off the islands .................... Fill in the dots
also remember when you guys had very little seabass in 2014-2015 we were smoking them up in Norcal on huge squid spawns, and they've been very thin up here the past 2 years. It's all cyclical, but having more seabass in the water is not a bad thing.
As well...how in the god damn fuck is there still gill netting in california?
I volunteer at the San Pedro grow out pen, Havent seen any three eyed fish yet but Ill keep one eye open and report back as they grow. The volunteers in this program are good Joes that actually give a shit about the future, Wish there was a better way to monitor their whereabouts but as long as theres funding I say stay the course,
Your photos are from the Redondo Grow-out facility...I don't think Pedro has a growout tank or raceways except at the High School and they only do a few fish in a small system...
Jim / Saba Slayer
Apologies, I meant redondo
if we get rid of gillnets and commercial squid fishing...something even better might happen with all the fish stocks. Commercial fishing with nets and purse seine isn't some god-given right, it's just a bullshit way to rape the resource at the expense of recreational anglers. Rod & Reel commercial should be celebrated, that shit is hardcore.
This may help explain their low return rate.
Scripps report Feb 2018
Full report 285 pages
3 inches when delivered , Fish in Tank #2 are starting to circle #1 tank are a bit skiddish but eating well, One floater in each today but significant growth and all look healthy!
Good luck on commercial squid fishing!Tom
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