Building first surface and yo-yo iron arsenal - what to buy?

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  1. gfg

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    New Years resolution to fish more this year!

    Interested in folks perspective.

    Will be doing more 1/2 day, 3/4 day and hopefully an overnight or 1.5 day trip or two this year - specifically to target yellowtail and tuna species.

    Need to limit the budget to ~ $150 or so and am wondering what are the minimum surface / yo-yo irons i should buy in order to have 80% of the bases covered?

    colors?
    brands?
    model #'s?

    Appreciate any insight!

    Many thanks!
     
  2. gnehekul

    gnehekul I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    First time throwing iron? Waxwing butterfly. Any brands will work
     
  3. FishAcquisition

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    Used CalStar 90J and a used Newell 332 in condition might keep you near $150. Understand the problem will be you not beimg able to resist buying 30 to 100 Jigs at $6 to $16 each.
     
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    Minimum?
    2 Tady 45 in blue/white and mint/white. Sardine (bird shit) and scrambled egg can be good too.
    1 Salas 6xJr in blue/white for water to 100’, 1 Salas 6x in blue/white for water > 100’ or strong current. I like the JRI equivalents (6 and 66).
     
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    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Starman 112, Salas 7x or JRI 4 in mint or birdshit
    JRI 3 you pick the color
    Salas 6x or 7x heavy or Tady 4/0 scrambled egg
    Salas 6xjr or Tady A2 in scrambled egg

    Your done, until you wanna buy more!
     
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    I do not fish surface irons much.
    P.M. me address and I'll mail you one/some.
    Wally
     
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    ^ and one heavy in red
     
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    strackle99 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Go to Squidco every week or two, and spend $20.

    Gradually fill out a large collection of gear.

    The biggest collections started with a single piece. (Or 10)
     
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    swami 805 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Still hard to beat a tady 45 for surface iron, can't speak to the others since I don't use them.Blue and white,mint, wounded solider. some days it doesn't matter. Retrieve speed can be important more than color. Start off with a softer rod until you get casting wired.
     
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    Shit, also a Tady C single hook, black/white = barracuda machine on the short trips.
     
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    I pretty much only fish irons...

    Yoyo - Salas 6x and 6x Jr Blue/White or Mint/White. Also a Salas Cristy 2 Heavy in either color

    Surface Iron - Handful of JRI 3's and 5's in Mint/White. I also like my older Salas 7x amd 7x Jr's as well.

    Don't forget a few Coltsniper's in the 80 and 100 gram sizes. I prefer Brown Ahi.
     
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    JRI 4 in mint/white...great Jig...my go to surface iron
     
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    I like tady 45 in dorado and the Salas 7x in green or mint sardine for surface yellows. Salas 6xjr in blue mack, Tady 4/0 in chrome/blue for yoyo yellows. Black/chrome megabaits are good for cuda and Bonito.
     
  14. Baller

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    To add to the above look at the Caivo jigs. The 3.2 and 2.2. Go to Fred Hall Long Beach. He has some amazing deals and you can get a few very cheap. Do not let the price fool you, these are fish killers.
     
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    There are a lot of folks with a lot of irons.
    Look here [ BDOutdoors ] for sales (equipment / tackle site)
    Keep an eye out for local fishing club parking lot sales and fishing organizational sales . . . for example the Oceanside Senior Anglers regularly have a member who re-habs and re-sells used irons at their meetings and they have a parking lot sale by members once a year. Similar groups and events abound.
    You probably actually can get by with only 3 colors (see above good advice) and 3 types (heavy, near bottom 5 to 8 or more ounces; Middle of column 5 to 3 ounces, and surface 3 oz or less), and 2 sizes Junior and Full or 4 or 5 inch and 6 or 7 inch.
    Unfortunately, when you add in different shapes and brands, if my math is correct that is a whole lot of options . . .
    My personal 3 color suggestions >> Blue / White, Mint / Mint & White, and Blue / Chrome. and one more, but just one - a medium sized, heavy weighted in red crab color ). Enjoy the search.
    Tight lines,
     
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    Im not much of a surface iron thrower, but I like the older starman (candy bar) 112's. The newer Candy Bar actually swim pretty damn good too. Old Killer ex7 if you can locate are great jigs as well. For Yoyo...I like salas 6x and 6x jr in dorado, scramble egg, and chrome blue or chrome. I also really like the older fishtrap or Ironman 5s which are the same shape, weight as the salas 6x jr. For smaller heavies, I like the Tady AA or A2 heavies...and megabait type jigs like 3 oz when you need to fish a smaller Iron,as well as colt sniper jigs. I also now carry a selection of flat falls...from 100 to 250 grams. I like sardine pattern, pink and blue, and glow. Got 3 smaller grade bluefinat 60 mile bank on the sardine pattern earlier in January. My tackle box weighs a ton mainly because of all the yoyo/megabait/flatfall jigs I carry but sometimes having all that shit pays off. I think Im going to add some more mint/mint white, and red crab color yoyo to the box and
    maybe taking some beat up flatfalls and painting them Mint and red crab color to make my box even heavier.
     
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    Do you take student discounts? I just got my mxl and a 9ft seeker I'm getting ready for those yellows.
     
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    I like the new Kicker 25 (Large) light models and Kicker 15 (Small) light Jigs for surface irons. How a jig swims is more important than color. Kicker jigs have a more consistent shape than Tady or Salas and therefore the likelihood of getting a jig that swims correctly goes up. A good jig will move back and forth as it swims and then has a significant kick every 4 or 5 motions.

    Color: Mint, Mint/white, Blue/white, Bird poop, Scrambled egg
    Chrome/Blue works well on the yo-yo

    http://www.kickerfishing.com/jigs/

    With the heavy jigs, this seems way less important. When choosing a color try and understand what the fish are feeding on. Sardine=Mint, Mackerel=Blue/White, Squid=scrambled egg, Anchovy=Black/white
    For example, I had great success with the Red/gold Savage Squish jig when the fish were feeding on tuna crab.

    https://www.savagegear-usa.com/product/view/lures/squish-jigs/squish-erratic-fall-jig
     
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    The caivo surface iron are good aswell. And cheaper price. He going to have 4 for $20 at Fred hall long beach.
     
  20. DPevin

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    Find Reebs Lures at the Pacific Coast Sportfishing Festival and at Fred Hall. He typically has a good selection of irons, surface and yoyo, full size and smaller. I have had really good success fishing them, and I am pretty new at fishing any sort of iron.
     
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