Bored: Swords v Marlin
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there is no sword fishing done by anyone that posts on Bd and if you suggest it you will be called stupid and all kinds of other gross and disgusting names - didn’t you read the thread about this that I started awhile back?
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Marlin. I put in quite a few days chasing marlin this past year and came up Empty handed. I raised two but no hookups.
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Plenty of guys on here fish for swords. Why don't you keep the stupid comments to your own threads so the rest of us don't have to read them.
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Your post was about fishing swords on a sport boat. This thread is about fishing swords on a private boat.
Completely different questions. I'll let you figure out which one is ridiculous.
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the Op’s 1st post said nothing about fishing for them off a private boat - if you think it did, you are either one dumb fuck, or can’t read, or both. Seeing as you’re most probably a dumb fuck, kinda makes sense you can’t read -or- visa versa.
Any way, I’ve caught 4 marlin, none of them in Cal waters, and not the first one one purpose - all caught “just trolling “. As far as I know, never raised or hooked a sword (hooked a few “mystery” fish, fishing/trolling deep lines- but lord knows what they were). This is after thousands of hours of offshore fishing. On that basis, I say swords. But, if you’re specifically targeting either fish, who knows, but I think targeting marlin would be unbearably boring as it would probably be trolling. If you’re deep drop fishing from a drifting boat, at least you could fish for something else while you’re watching the tip of the deep drop rods.
Any way, I’ve caught 4 marlin, none of them in Cal waters, and not the first one one purpose - all caught “just trolling “. As far as I know, never raised or hooked a sword (hooked a few “mystery” fish, fishing/trolling deep lines- but lord knows what they were). This is after thousands of hours of offshore fishing. On that basis, I say swords. But, if you’re specifically targeting either fish, who knows, but I think targeting marlin would be unbearably boring as it would probably be trolling. If you’re deep drop fishing from a drifting boat, at least you could fish for something else while you’re watching the tip of the deep drop rods.
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Oh, and Edge, why don’t you blow me - you don’t tell me what threads to post on, or any damn thing else for that matter. And this is not a thread for you to be reading or posting on as you’ve never fished for either one, so have nothing to say, other than maybe some delerious wet dream speculation. So again, blow my asshole you creepy fuck.
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The OP did ask which fish is more difficult to catch for a new boat owner which certainly implies a private boat
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Yo May think it “implies” it, but he definitely didn’t say he was going to fish for them off his new, or any other, private boat. I learned how to read in the fifties, maybe they’re teaching reading differently these days.
And if he’s going to fish for either off his new boat, which would also imply he’s new at targeting either of these fish, my suggestion would be to start off with a charter or two, on a boat w/ captain who’s experienced at targeting these fish - that would certainly shorten his learning curve, and would definitely save him some $ in the short and long run.
ie, don’t be “Rookie”, asking whether he should buy a 10’ rod to use with his new 130 size reel, to fish off his own new boat, fishing in an area where he’ll be lucky to land a 5 lb mangrove snapper.
And if he’s going to fish for either off his new boat, which would also imply he’s new at targeting either of these fish, my suggestion would be to start off with a charter or two, on a boat w/ captain who’s experienced at targeting these fish - that would certainly shorten his learning curve, and would definitely save him some $ in the short and long run.
ie, don’t be “Rookie”, asking whether he should buy a 10’ rod to use with his new 130 size reel, to fish off his own new boat, fishing in an area where he’ll be lucky to land a 5 lb mangrove snapper.
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I’ve killed a lot of bill fish. I used to deckhand for boats with 6-10 guests and the bigger the fish the bigger the tip. It was just me and the captain so money was good with 100 fish days and a couple trophies on board. When In the right area and season marlin are easy picking. They bite better than tuna and if you really want a big one, you troll a live tuna.
SoCal marlin are different. We get blues but stripes are the main species present here and they seem to migrate and congregate in only a few areas. When they’re here they are thick but you have to be in the know.
I am not in the stripe marlin loop but did give it a shot this past year. I saw two working a school of dorado back in July and threw irons at them and trolled lures for nothing. Once I saw that I knew they were around so I went out trolling for them and hitting the areas full of mahi and YFT. I caught a lot of mahi. I ended up raising one on a Lumo green daisy chain I made specifically for mahi and actually raised one on a legit marlin lure. Both fish struck the lures but then lost interest and I didn’t have the means to keep a pitch bait on hand.
Swords are a totally different story and targeted differently but I saw probably a dozen of them on the surface this year and when I had enough time and good weather to target them I hit those areas and got one. So for Southern California I’d say swords are easier. But that’s only from one season of actually targeting them here.
Sport boats are not going to target either of them. Those captain have 10-30 anglers to please and trolling or drifting for one fish isn’t going to do it. They need to get on paddies full of YT and mahi or find a school of YFT.
Would it be possible to target swords on a sportie? Yes. Find an area near the islands and put out the sea anchors and lights at night, raise squid, mackerel, maybe tuna, mahi etc and put some baits out for swords and tuna. For sure it would work but most of those boats are looking for schools of fish at night or headed to and from the tuna grounds, not sitting around catching up on sleep and plunking away at mahi in the lights.
SoCal marlin are different. We get blues but stripes are the main species present here and they seem to migrate and congregate in only a few areas. When they’re here they are thick but you have to be in the know.
I am not in the stripe marlin loop but did give it a shot this past year. I saw two working a school of dorado back in July and threw irons at them and trolled lures for nothing. Once I saw that I knew they were around so I went out trolling for them and hitting the areas full of mahi and YFT. I caught a lot of mahi. I ended up raising one on a Lumo green daisy chain I made specifically for mahi and actually raised one on a legit marlin lure. Both fish struck the lures but then lost interest and I didn’t have the means to keep a pitch bait on hand.
Swords are a totally different story and targeted differently but I saw probably a dozen of them on the surface this year and when I had enough time and good weather to target them I hit those areas and got one. So for Southern California I’d say swords are easier. But that’s only from one season of actually targeting them here.
Sport boats are not going to target either of them. Those captain have 10-30 anglers to please and trolling or drifting for one fish isn’t going to do it. They need to get on paddies full of YT and mahi or find a school of YFT.
Would it be possible to target swords on a sportie? Yes. Find an area near the islands and put out the sea anchors and lights at night, raise squid, mackerel, maybe tuna, mahi etc and put some baits out for swords and tuna. For sure it would work but most of those boats are looking for schools of fish at night or headed to and from the tuna grounds, not sitting around catching up on sleep and plunking away at mahi in the lights.
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On the one LR trip I’ve been on, an 11 day cow trip on the Indy, the 2nd day we were anchored up on the bank, we were covered up with marlin. Atleast as many, or maybe more, marlin were hooked than yellowfin freelining live bait. I personally broke off (intentionally) 2. That’s mexican waters tho.
Fishing for marlin in Cal waters I’m sure is a different story. From threads/posts I read on here, it sounds like most of the sword fishing out there is done pretty much like it’s done in Fl and NE, deep dropping- except for the few that are lucky enough to see one “sunning” on the surface and flip live bait to them (sounds pretty exciting), or harpoon them (less exciting).
Haven’t got a sword yet, never have targeted them, never had the crew to do it. Gonna charter with Rush Maltz down in Key West this year and hopefully check that off the list. At 71 years old, time is short for me on being able to stand up to a good sword in the harness. I’m gonna bring a 100lb rail rod setup and see if his boat rail is high enough to use it.
Big cubera snapper (50+) is also on my list, as is 100+ wahoo. Didn’t get a big tuna on my LR trip, but I already had a 120 dogtooth on 20 setup (caught off Timor), so I’m satisfied on tuna. I’ve got a lot of really good fish checked off on my list during my 65 years of fishing, so no complaints if I don’t get them all. I’m pickin at em.
Fishing for marlin in Cal waters I’m sure is a different story. From threads/posts I read on here, it sounds like most of the sword fishing out there is done pretty much like it’s done in Fl and NE, deep dropping- except for the few that are lucky enough to see one “sunning” on the surface and flip live bait to them (sounds pretty exciting), or harpoon them (less exciting).
Haven’t got a sword yet, never have targeted them, never had the crew to do it. Gonna charter with Rush Maltz down in Key West this year and hopefully check that off the list. At 71 years old, time is short for me on being able to stand up to a good sword in the harness. I’m gonna bring a 100lb rail rod setup and see if his boat rail is high enough to use it.
Big cubera snapper (50+) is also on my list, as is 100+ wahoo. Didn’t get a big tuna on my LR trip, but I already had a 120 dogtooth on 20 setup (caught off Timor), so I’m satisfied on tuna. I’ve got a lot of really good fish checked off on my list during my 65 years of fishing, so no complaints if I don’t get them all. I’m pickin at em.
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“Yo May think it “implies” it, but he definitely didn’t say he was going to fish for them off his new, or any other, private boat. I learned how to read in the fifties, maybe they’re teaching reading differently these days”
Your self decided intellectual superiority has betrayed you here. There’s not one other person on this thread who doesn’t realize he’s talking private boat.
Your self decided intellectual superiority has betrayed you here. There’s not one other person on this thread who doesn’t realize he’s talking private boat.
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Implying and saying are 2 different things, so maybe it’s not reading you have a problem with, maybe your vocabulary just sucks.
And whatever you and your imaginary buddies choose to “realize” is of no consequence to me and doesn’t change the fact that Op Did Not say it - you imagined it.
And whatever you and your imaginary buddies choose to “realize” is of no consequence to me and doesn’t change the fact that Op Did Not say it - you imagined it.
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Damn this guy has to be one of the top 3 in the douchebag/asshole category here.Yes JTE I'm calling you names.
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JTE has to be a fake account and is probably some guy fucking with us. If it’s isn’t, I apologize for saying your account is fake. Instead your just an abrasive idiot.
Nobody can be that stupid to not realize the OP was definitely talking about fishing from a private boat.
Nobody can be that stupid to not realize the OP was definitely talking about fishing from a private boat.
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Your comprehension is severely lacking. It is patently obvious that he’s referring to private boat fishing. Besides the fact that nobody asks if they should target marlin vs swordfish on a sport boat.
Arguing with you reminds me of dealing with people that have Asperger’s, or a serial killer that carries this warped smugness that thinks they are smarter than everybody else.
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Ignore function is your friend...and there is no limit on how many you put on it.....
JTE is just looking for attention. Stop giving it to him. Without it he will probably start crying...
JTE is just looking for attention. Stop giving it to him. Without it he will probably start crying...
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