BOLA / Baja.. The Good and the VERY BAD!

Leslie. Christensen

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    1 more, sorry I think the club signs help, Some of club that do caravans, put on tournaments, deal with and report to tourism, and aduana pesca. Having there signs both sides pretty much insures there going to be reported. Maybe that's why we have been lucky. Seen guys at checkpoints looking at them, had cars parallel me on tool road and fade away. Vagabundos del Mar, like I said the mental illness could be another reason,
     
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    Willdoggy

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    [QUOTE="Avery Gilleland, post: 4903597, member
    If you can't grow a pair, then keep paying and quit bitching. You paying, perpetuates the problem for everyone. .

    Wow! You do have some good advice. And I'd never argue that I handled each episode flawlessly.. I've also acknowledged that paying them is the problem. Absolutely agree there.
    I NEVER ONCE gave into their demands for huge fines. Tried to go to the station, etc. Spent lots of time arguing, negotiating, requesting to go to the station in Tecate.

    No intention to "bitch" either, just offering a detailed narrative of our experience that might help another headed down.

    But it's real easy to be the arm chair-Baja travel expert when you weren't there, with the BIG pair to teach class on the law enforcement officers in a foreign country.

    I too hope my pair grows soon..[/QUOTE]

    hahaha. Always easier to be an armchair quarterback Chris.
    We need a font for sarcasm.....long overdue. You guys did great given your circumstances.
     
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    Willdoggy

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    Thanks Amigo! The cops definitely no bueno, but I'm hoping this thread IS good for your business. Anyone towing down solo might think twice, and just load the truck and head on down to fish with you or any of the other great skippers south of the border. They have very little to worry about I think.

    I know we'll be fishing with you 4 times a year now instead of 2 . It's just easier, not to mention your chignon extraordinaire...el Juan.

    Half way tempted to get back down (WITHOUT BOAT ) and have you put us on some SQ WSB soon :jig::cheers:

    Count me in on one of these trips Chris / Juan!
     
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    fishkilr

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    This post is about being bribed by crooked cops,
    A bribe is used to avoid punishment for doing something wrong ...
    This is robbery... give me money because I say so or possibly lose your freedom ...
    If they can do things like this they can just as easily take you somewhere quiet and put a bullet in your head..
     
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    HookEmDanO

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    Really? Wear the white hood, I mean red hat down there and see how it goes for you. :-) Later.

    so ya dont think this crap ain't been going on long before Trump?
    this started with Trump ? uh huh

    I do have a white MAGA hat I wear down there...it has not been a problem...its a hat
     
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    _Ferbz_

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    welll thats the nail in the coffin of me driving down to BOLA f that i would be in a mexican jail i dont have that extra cash and i would probley get hemmed u for something i forgot was even in my car
     
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    Leslie. Christensen

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    Where going, not having weapons, drugs in car is a must. Never been searched in Baja. They really seem to be looking for big targets, seeing $$$ signs, lots of good info,
    Putting my big Vagabundos del Mar decals on side windows think it helps, we're old to , and more respect for age down there. Away from boarder we had pretty scary fall accident, accident, police were great professional and nobody would accept money told me they couldn't accept it ,gave ambulance 50. for gas, 250mi round trip, 65.00 for hospital, got back here still dealing with complications, over million ,most from insurance, thank god
     
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    Smiler1958

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    Who buys the drugs that are fostering a culter of violence in Mexico. The USA!! Quite obvious, unless you chose to ignore the facts
    No that actually is no longer the case. With the legalization of marijuana here, the cartels principle source of cash has largely disappeared and with it the crews, infrastructure and political influence it purchased needed to grow the fairly labor intensive crop and ship it here. Much of the current drugs these days (meth in particular) are produced and consumed in Mexico. The surge in violence is largely attributable to internecine warfare over control of local neighborhoods or “plaza’s” a similar situation in many ways to some of our more dangerous cities here.
     
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    triton91

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    "I would advise against any adversarial tactics such as photos or arguing or anything that could be perceived as disrespectful. Keep your cool and play the game, you're a guest in their country and their rules are very different than ours. The US is a beautiful country full of incredibly generous and friendly people - lots of fish and good waves too!"

    Ding Ding - Hit it on the head!!! I changed a word in part of what was said, read it and see how that makes you feel? How come everyone has to play by there rules when we go to there Country, but when they come here we still have to play by there Rules and pay them all the Free Hand Outs and bend over!!
     
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    Leslie. Christensen

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    Because we live in the Socialist republic of California. Go or Don't, country with a lot of problems being overwhelmed by people from countries that seem to be a lot worse, if it was perfect, I couldn't afford to go, lot less rules we get a lot of slack, this thread is about some shitty cops , ruining reputation of all, and how to avoid or deal with them , water gets better, cops get worse, fix the roads storm takes em out. Ask a vet about the nice roads they play on, haven't heard of any exploding roads yet, maybe. Political crap and illegals, mostly these days coming through Mexico not from, the basic stuff is what makes for little adventure, drive your 4x4 down Huntington Beach on a summer Sunday, set up a little camp, see how the police treat you. 65.00 75.00 a night to park by beach, breath everyone's exhaust, don't step on anyone on way to water, oh boy, was that a diaper floating by, safe travels good luck. Do it your way
     
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    Leslie. Christensen

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    Ya, or riding in boat, going down the street, or riding the the back of truck smoking and drinking, my god are we bad or what. Cleaning fish is illegal, dam seal might choke or something. Again be safe aware, enjoy the simple stuff while you can.
     
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    Doug , You are absolutely correct about Respect. Maybe your definition is different than mine. Where in my post did you see where I said to get in a Mexican cops face No Way ! Let's go back to the original gentleman's post, the problem is they { not knowing any any better] let the criminal cops take control and intimidated them to create confusion and fear, there actions were understandable. After 60 years of traveling to Baja as a tourist, I have learned to disrurpt and defend myself passively with respect . that includes using my camera.
     
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    BajaGringo

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    So very, very sorry you had to deal with this BS Dan - I shared your story to our Talk Baja group on facebook where we have a large number of local, state and even federal officials as members including from the Secretary of Tourism.

    I really hope we can get their attention with this.

    Next time you are down in San Quintin tell Captain Juan to call me and I'll buy you a round...
     
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    Fishdood

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    Ive been going to Baja for 20 years towing $500k+ race vehicles all the way up and down the peninsula and yes this does happen. There are a lot of good cops down there but also there are a few bad. I don’t think there is a good solution to this problem and I don’t think it will ever be solved either. I honestly just pay them off right away and save the hassle. $50 will get you out of whatever BS they want usually right away. I know that’s the problem but I am not going to risk going down some back roads to the station with a very expensive vehicle and truck loaded with parts, $50 is worth it. Is it BS? 100% it is. To me it’s just part of the price we pay going to Baja. I will keep going and hopefully maybe one day thing will be different but I doubt it. My .02
     
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    Sdchronix

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    I heard theres been a dude in Tecate lately messing with a lot of people. A few of my buddies have been caught shook down by him. Prolly same guy
     
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    I just got back from BOLA about a month ago in my brand new truck and center console. I didn't have any issues. Maybe because I'm Mexican and kinda look like a local I don't know. Been going to bola for over 30 years Rafa Cuevas is my god father and have always fished his pangas. I've been pulled over once but was let go w no hassle or issues. Sorry to hear about what happened. I'll let the people of baja norte ensenada know whats going on and file a complaint. it is only going to hurt them in the long run if this keeps happening.
    Kind Regards
    Robert

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    stairman

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    you were targeted the other two times because you had all that cash in your wallet....and a 50k neon sign on the trailer behind you....FUCK THEM...I learned to stay north of the border 25 years ago …..but it's ok if millions of them come here ...nothing bad will ever come of it
     
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    waldocod

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    We were getting ready to leave on a Mothership trip from San Felipe a few years ago. We were waiting for 1 passenger to show up. He finally did after being ticketed 3 times for allegedly running stop signs in a 1 mile stretch!
    I personally looked for those signs and only found 1 and that one was broken at the post and laying in the bushes!
     
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    Greasy

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    That sucks what happen to you guys. It sucks that i was not able to go on this trip with you, but in light of the story you told it is a good thing, i may had popped off and got us in trouble. The fish pictures are awesome an happy that part of the trip was good. Talk too you soon.
     
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