Boeing vote today

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plj46

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"And it would change the age at which one can reitire at full pay from 54 to 58"

Now aint THAT a fucking pisser.
Yea this would be tough to deal with :rofl:damn imagine being forced to retire at 58
 
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Jermz

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Detroit, I don't think we have to go that far.

If anything we can subdivide the building in Everett into are marijuana grow and processing facilities. They already have all the power and ventilation in place. I can see it now the worlds largest indoor grow show.:smoking33::smoking33::smoking33: Washingtons newest oldest industry.



U could supply the world with those buildings. :rofl:
 
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If i still lived in Arizona the drinking wouldn't of stopped until i ran out of money. Haven't cracked a cold one yet but will soon. It could get interesting but i will most likely forget about you douchebags and find something productive to do, like jamming shards of glass under my fingernails. But seems im gonna go deplete the salmon population tomorrow i must save that for another day. And Tues a Salmon in a fish that lives in salt water and spawns in fresh water. I personally like chinook. It is nothing like the catfish or bass turd tank cleaning tilapia you southern guys are used to our fish actually taste good and are good for you.

Salmon is used for bait...I wondered who made our bait. Thanks, bud!

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I think we can pretty much all agree that Boeing jobs are great jobs for the employees and the community. There are a millions of people who wished they had the income and employment security that Boeing employees have enjoyed for so many years. All of us in Puget Sound have connections to Boeing employees and contractors. We've been lucky that these jobs are here. ALL Boeing employees spend their money and contribute to the local economy. There are a helluvalotta boats, RVs, trucks, and such bought and sold every day due to the Boeing Company. I thank you all, from the top down or the bottom up. Hopefully y'all can agree to live with each other for a very long time to come, without a bunch of pissing and crying. I personally would hate to see Boeing move more of their operations out of Washington, which they have demonstrated they are capable of doing. As a state we have benefited from Boeing, albeit not without immense concessions. I wish the state would forgive my tax bills. Let's not let Everett become the next Detroit.

This.....
 
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Jermz

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What's up? I've seen predictions both ways on the outcome. Didn't they JUST start to count the ballots?


Yeah. My brother is down there counting now.
 
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it seems that a lot of you feel cause it happened to you that we all need to join in the march to the bottom. 9:30 tonight we will know.

I don't see it as that at all. I see a bunch of people wishing you the best. This just comes from personal experience and many of us having our asses handed to us. Good luck Amigo. When will you know? If the worst happens I don't think you will see anyone gloating over it. Losing your job is a pretty big, life changing experience. Especially now.
 
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I don't see it as that at all. I see a bunch of people wishing you the best. This just comes from personal experience and many of us having our asses handed to us. Good luck Amigo. When will you know? If the worst happens I don't think you will see anyone gloating over it. Losing your job is a pretty big, life changing experience. Especially now.

9 to 10 tonight.


We wont lose are jobs any times soon. Remember we are still under contract till 2016.
 
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But how are Tues, EZ, and Gil supposed to grow a pair of testicals. I guess that makes Tues's puke worth a shitload of money.

Seriously: I hope you guys come out OK on this. I would really hate to see the worst case scenario happen, and you guys lose your lively hoods.

Hang tough Northern Brothers!
I'm praying for you guys....
 
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Wish you could see what I go through to insure that in a crash that those over head Stowbins(overhead luggage) don't fall on your head. I build the strongback(structure) that the bin bucket attaches/pivots to.

You can be proud! Like I said, ALL those fuckers should have died! I have no clue how that plane held together getting spun around and slammed like that. :shithappens:, that was intense!
 
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9 to 10 tonight.


We wont lose are jobs any times soon. Remember we are still under contract till 2016.

that's good news. I know of three months warning and three hours to clear out their shit.
 
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You can be proud! Like I said, ALL those fuckers should have died! I have no clue how that plane held together getting spun around and slammed like that. :shithappens:, that was intense!


Thanks for for the good words.
 
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Most who bash unions know little to nothing about them or they are business owners or just plain fucking stupid. If you guys think that Boeing doesnt have a plan to leave already your wrong. I have 34000 hours invested in my trade and have had 3 spine surgeries to keep at it. I started in the non union sector and am very glad i joined up. Too many people think that unions are the devil and it makes no sense. Why would anyone give up strength in numbers for an army of one. Some comments on here are made by guys with extravagant yachts in their avatars saying unions are bad and all i can say is that even with my wage which is in the upper middle class and not on the bottom this state isnt cheap to live in. 100k a year doesnt buy much more than a rambler and a car. Until you rich faggots have to work for a living "SHUT YOUR FUCKING PIEHOLES". Your spoonfed family inheritance lifestyle you live wasnt free to the person who earned it and i would say it wasnt you.

Are you dissatisfied with $100,000 (or more) a year to work for one of the best employers in the nation? If I am wealthy, why would you assume someone else earned it for me? Those of us who take financial risk, work long, hard, uncompensated, and without a safety net often reap the rewards of such endeavors. I'd like to think that we can take either path without offending each other. A few of my union member friends (I have several) declared bankruptcy during the recession. I nearly had to, as well. Their union didn't pay their mortgages for them when they were out of work. The kind of shit you're slinging here only comes from other guys who are unhappy fucks. I'm happy for you if you are doing well, and I would hope you would feel the same for a guy like me who actually employs people and makes a living for myself at the same time. I hire union and nonunion workers alike. I'm guessing you do, too.
 
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Fyi i am not a IMA member. I am however a Union member who supports the no vote. As a union member i would have a tough time saying yes to such a deal to bow down to my employer.
 
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I used to think I was "uniquely qualified".
Then the Great Recession(under Bush R. Not Obama D) hit in '07 and I was unemployed and shortly thereafter homeless.
The world went on without my unique qualifications......
It was a very humbling experience.
I hope the Boeing workers don't vote themselves into a similar circumstance.

ALL workers are replaceable. If they have to hire 4 people to do your job until one can do it alone at less compensation, they'll just fire the other 3 and be ahead before long.....

I'm not well versed in labor contracts, pensions, etc. But, I do know about learning to appreciate what you had when it's gone. Think it through.


I agree with almost everything you said carl...with the exception that it was the PELOSI-REID- gw bush recession....look it up...the ecomomy tanked weeks after those two resumed Americas spiral to socialism
 
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    it seems that a lot of you feel cause it happened to you that we all need to join in the march to the bottom. 9:30 tonight we will know.

    Speaking for myself; you couldn't be farther from the truth.
     
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    Uncle Binky

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    Except that Boeing is rolling in $$ and has order stacked up for years to come. Building airplanes ain't exactly filling twinkies:waglleybooty:

    I do not have dog in this fight either, but I find it weird that people are angry that workers make a decent living and have decent benefits, but don't seem to have an issue with top management getting huge salaries and bonuses......

    I LOVE Pinedale, WY. What a great place to live! I've hunted there a time or two.
     
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    As highly skilled as you guy are, if you think for one minute that you all can't be replaced at the drop of a hat.

    I have to stand with Carl on this one.
    Be smart don't lose your jobs.

    Well Boeing will find out the hard way what a knowledge base they will lose. Not only the IAM guys but the SPEAA guys too.
     
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    goatram

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    Seattle will now pay it's city workers $15 an hour. The new rainbow warrior Mayor has signed an executive order making it so.

    Mark if the vote is already known then They Rigged it; A foregone conclusion!

    Everett has people still in line waiting to vote. If you were in line at 6 pm you get to vote.

    The Federal Government thought that the company was playing fast and lose with rules that they stated that in the awarding the tanker contract to Airbus the first time. We fought hard for a rethink of congress's decision. The Boeing Executive that thought up a 20 year lease was a thief as well


    Can Ray and Jim both swallow a bit of pride and do the right thing. Their Last and Best was not it it. Compromise and we all win. Selling my soul to the Devil for a job is not on my bucket list.
     
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    Jermz

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    Well Boeing will find out the hard way what a knowledge base they will lose. Not only the IAM guys but the SPEAA guys too.[/QUOTE]



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    MarkFromSea

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    9 to 10 tonight.


    We wont lose are jobs any times soon. Remember we are still under contract till 2016.

    Don't take this the wrong way as my intent is pure, but, 2 years is a really short period of time.
     
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    Jermz

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    Don't take this the wrong way as my intent is pure, but, 2 years is a really short period of time.


    True. But it's not over yet. They said it was over the last vote.
     
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    Grady226

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    Are you dissatisfied with $100,000 (or more) a year to work for one of the best employers in the nation? If I am wealthy, why would you assume someone else earned it for me? Those of us who take financial risk, work long, hard, uncompensated, and without a safety net often reap the rewards of such endeavors. I'd like to think that we can take either path without offending each other. A few of my union member friends (I have several) declared bankruptcy during the recession. I nearly had to, as well. Their union didn't pay their mortgages for them when they were out of work. The kind of shit you're slinging here only comes from other guys who are unhappy fucks. I'm happy for you if you are doing well, and I would hope you would feel the same for a guy like me who actually employs people and makes a living for myself at the same time. I hire union and nonunion workers alike. I'm guessing you do, too.


    To you sir.....The news sensationalized a grade 9/10 maxed out employee as the standard. That is a person that has worked there for more than 6.5 years and is either a flightline mech. or overhead crane operator.

    Most structure assembly mechanics are grade 4/5 and would have to work 600-800 hrs of overtime per year to come close to that mark!!!

    I voted NO and expect another round of negotiations and contract offers soon.

    FYI...NWLuhrs and I built the wings on that 777 that went down in San Fran....I think we do great work:finger::finger::finger::finger:
     
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