Bob Sands or RP knot?

Abaco

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After a 2-year break I'm finally getting back out on a trip on the RP in September. Can't wait! Before I get out I like to sit by the pool and practice my knots. In years past I experimented with a few different knots on splicing fluorocarbon to braid. I had some success with the Bob Sands. I'm curious what works well for you. I think I had some failures with the RP knot. But, it's been a couple years so I could be mistaken. What do you suggest/use? Thanks much.
 

Bill W

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Hi Dave...
A lot of info here on the FG knot. It is second best to the PR knot in strength but quick to make and smaller profile. It goes through the guides very well.
 
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I use the RP knot because it's simple and I understand it. I had a failure with it one time, and on a recent trip on the RP I was told by several people that I have been tying it with too many turns, which makes it impossible to cinch all of them down tightly.

Five turns up and five turns back. Cinch it incredibly tightly. I use gloves to tie it. Some people use hardwood dowels. The line will cut through soft wood dowels under the sort of tension necessary to tighten the knot.
 
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Reel 007

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Have been using the Bob Sands for years, never had a one fail.
 

Abaco

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Thanks so much, guys. I remember the Bob Sands being somewhat more involved, but strong as hell.
 

muymacho74

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Never had a Bob Sands fail me in many many years, and I’ve used it on everything from #15 on up to #100.
 
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Rodless_Jim

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I used the Pena (basically a Bob Sands) for years and years with no failures. Recently became a convert to the FG. While I totally respect those who use the RP (Reverse Albright), I've seen it fail too many times. Even though I tie a very sano RP, I've never used one on the water, and never will.

If you have the time and feel the motivation, I recommend learning the FG. If not, you're already golden with the Bob Sands.
 

ZZZZZ

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Imo, A well known properly tied knot does not fail. User error. Something else should give before a sano knot busts, including hanging the bottom while drifting. Should break above the dropper loops. The clock ticking is not the knot, its all the other sheet that can go wrong. Abrasion should cause weakening and breakage before the knot busts. If your knot busts quickly that's a good opportunity to ponder, why did it break.