Bluefin Fried My Mak

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  1. ripped

    ripped I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I just got off a three day with Mike Lackey on the Vagabond chasing Bluefin at San Clemente. We had a group of nine family and friends on this trip. The boat ended the day with 10 quality Bluefin in the 175 to 210 class off the kite. Both my sun in law and myself were lucky to get one with mine being a personal best.

    After dinner we Flat Falled when Travis hooked up on a monster. Fishing a Mak SEa 16 with 100 Spectra paired to a Calstar 775XH the fish truly had it's way with Travis. The reel was set with 30 pounds of drag at strike he pushed the lever to 15 pounds for the first run. Leaning into the rail the rod was now fully loaded and he moved into the corner. The reel dumped 200 yards of line in less than 10 seconds so the lever was pushed to 20 lbs. and still had no effect on this brute.The reel lost an additional 100+ yards before it ended...

    The reel was fried with a locked drag and no freespool. It smelled like a fresh tar roofing job and still emits the oder of cooked drags. Travis asked the deck hand if there was anything different he could have done and was told next time to hook a smaller fish! It can now be as big as one wants to believe but it was estimated to be 300+

    I called Okuma and will be sending in the reel to see what failed. There are monsters swimming out there and if anyone catches one with a glow flat fall knock off with 9/0 hooks and heat shrink over the assist cord, it's mine.
     
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  2. Fishybuzz

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    IMO you fried the drags because you had insufficient initial drag.....
     
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  3. Bill W

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    Some guys say let the fish run, myself I go right to strike. Sounds like a nice fish but a 300# fish will have a slow tail beat.
     
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  4. aguachico

    aguachico I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Wow!

    cool story. Can you explain why the reel was not at strike on the first run?
    Sometimes the fish win!!!
     
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  5. richardblufin

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    I would get the real fixed. Then I would send the bill to the owner of the vagabond, Mike ruins tackle lackey. He does this a lot.
     
  6. ripped

    ripped I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I followed how Mike Lackey wanted us to set our reels.
     
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  7. impreza619

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    Fish too big... this is a good problem to have. I have no doubt Okuma will take care of their Mak owners. Tight drags on the jumbos lesson learned. Cool story OP
     
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  8. hucklongfin

    hucklongfin Deep release specialist

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    I'd have gone straight to strike. Don't give him something for free, if he wants it, make him earn it.
     
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  9. Reel 007

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    THIS.
    The fish was allowed to get the drag so hot on the initial run nothing really worked after that. more drag would have created a slower turning spool and less heat.
     
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    Tough lesson to learn. My two cents like a lot of other folks is the fish smoked the drags early. Have to go in on a bigger fish a lot harder then 10lbs or you better have a back up rig handy
     
  11. speyman

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    There is a lot of room between strike and free. With 30# at strike i would go to about 25# on the first run. Then you can push it up as needed during the up and down phase.

    With my reels set at 30% i rarely get to strike the last few years. 25# is a lot of drag
     
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    I agree that the drag was probably set too light on the initial run (lets just say that a 200 yard initial run (line peel) done in 10 seconds or less is not optimum unless its a big Swordfish). Also have to remember that this is a 16 size reel (smaller drag) and say its a true Super size cow BFT (300lbs+) which IMO is generally going to run further/faster on the initial run than a Super size cow YFT (I'm talking Super cow size tuna here not regular 200lb class cows or below... that's a different story). There might have been some serious current down below which also allows the larger fish to run faster than normal. IMO, you 've got 9/0 hooks, heavy line/leader you need to put the wood to them (30lbs at strike would be minimum for me fishing that kind of terminal... and I would get to strike (30lbs) sooner rather than later on that size of BFT).

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    Hope the next brute is landed :cow: and I hope someone returns your jig

    Not sure on the line diameter as its not mentioned. Just 100lb spectra

    But

    15lbs of drag on the initial run is to light. Spool must have been spinning at mach speed and the reel fried.

    20lbs of drag on the second run is to light and would be to light for the initial run also.

    Imo, Fish heavier drag. Like around double :D

    Good luck :Rambo_Throwing_Kniv
     
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  14. ripped

    ripped I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Braid was tied directly to 400# swivel to 130 Fluorocarbon.
     
  15. Let em eat 74

    Let em eat 74 Well-Known "Member"

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    Fighting a fish like you are afraid to lose it, is often the quickest way to do just that. You still did way better than most by getting the hook up and your rigging choices were well chosen. There’s another one waiting out there with your name on it, go collect it.
     
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    A saying goes if you are afraid you are going to loose it, you will.

    You gotta give a big fish something to think about and he will make a mistake. But you have to act quick when he does make that mistake. Line stopped coming off the reel does not mean the fish stopped, it means he stopped swimming away from the boat.
     
  17. BluefinCurly

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    Listening to Mike on the com at night is priceless. He would say "big fish at 250 to 400ft, "ohh, there is a biggun".

    Those times I felt a bit concerned that my Mak 20 with 45# was going to be inadequate.
     
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    Now that's an interesting physics problem.

    Which generates more heat. 200 yards at 15 lb, or 100 yards at 30 lbs of drag ?

    Standard theory of work = ft/lbs would make it the same. Time and velocity deltas could screw that all up though.

    Do we have any really smart people here? Where the hell is that HPD Eric when you need him ?
     
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    At least Travis got to pull on it for a while and has a story to tell of "the one that got away."

    Keep us posted on the Mak 16...
     
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    also include the weight increase on the fish for every yard of line he drags into the water...
     
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    Let em eat 74 Well-Known "Member"

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    Higher speeds equal more heat. The fish isn’t likely to be running near as fast on 30# of drag or as long. It’s like riding the brakes on a downhill........where did my brakes go?

    Edit....I know on a car it increases exponentially with speed if that helps.
     

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