*Bluefin* FIVE RIGS: Don't leave the dock without them!

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Given that long range-grade tuna are now a regular occurrence in local waters, and you never quite know if the next school of tuna you encounter will be 25-pounders, or 250-pounders, what constitutes "local tackle" needs a serious re-boot.
Any time you go out of San Diego, and end up at least 20 miles offshore, just about anything can happen.
For those anglers who don't feel like watching the 90-minute video Captain Art Taylor of the Searcher and I did on this topic recently, here's the list and the basic explanations:


5 RIGS; DON’T LEAVE THE DOCK WITHOUT THEM!

1. 20-25 POUND RIG

Reel- PENN Fathom star drag FTHII15SD or FTHII12SD

Rod- Conventional 7 to 8-feet, rated for 10-25 or 12-30 pound lines. Ex: PENN Carnage III CARWCIII1025C80

Applications- Finesse live bait for school size bluefin & yellowfin tuna

2. 30-POUND RIG

Reel- PENN Torque 2-speed TRQ15LD2, PENN Fathom 2-speed FTH15LD2 or FTH15XNLD2

Rod- Conventional 7 to 8-feet, rated for 15-40 pound lines. Ex: PENN Carnage III CARWCIII1540C80

Applications- All around live bait use for yellowtail, dorado, and finesse live bait tuna to 75 pounds

3. 40-POUND RIG

Reel- PENN Torque 2-speed TRQ25NLD2, PENN Fathom 2-speed FTH30NLD2 or FTH25NLD2

Rod- Conventional 7 to 8-feet, rated for 25-50 or 30-60 pound lines. Ex: PENN Carnage III CARWCIII3060C76

Applications- Live bait use for tuna up to 100 pounds; light & medium jigs for tuna & yellowtail

4. 60-80 POUND RIG

Reel- PENN Torque 2-speed TRQ40NLD2, PENN Fathom 2-speed FTH40NLD2

Rod Conventional 6.5 to 8-feet, rated for 30-80 or 40-100 pound lines. Ex: PENN Carnage III CARWCIII40100C78

Applications- Tuna up to to 175 pounds with live bait and fall-type jigs; yo-yo jigging for yellowtail

5. 80-100 POUND RIG

Reel- PENN International 2-speed 16VISX

Rod- Conventional “Rail Rod” 6.5 to 7.5 feet, rated for 60-130 pound lines. Ex: PENN Carnage III CARWCIII80130C70

Applications- Live bait or fall-type jigs for tuna up to 300 pounds
 
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Is the fathom 60 ok for 80 lb. I'm in Artois and hard to pay over500 for a once a year trip. Doing back to back3 days on the RR3 in August. Does penn ever sell year old loaner gear

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I'm kinda new at this, but... because of the mixed size schools, I opted for a bit more line capacity, on my 30 and 40# rigs. I use a Torque 25/2 on my 7'6" UC Tilefish Jr for 30# and a Torque 30 on my 8'0" UC Terminator for 40#. I know the spool weight is slightly heavier resulting in more drag on the 'dine, but I like the extra line capacity. I'm right in there with you on the 60/80 and the 100. Heading out on a 4-day in May hope to give these a work-out!
 
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    Given that long range-grade tuna are now a regular occurrence in local waters, and you never quite know if the next school of tuna you encounter will be 25-pounders, or 250-pounders, what constitutes "local tackle" needs a serious re-boot.
    Any time you go out of San Diego, and end up at least 20 miles offshore, just about anything can happen.
    For those anglers who don't feel like watching the 90-minute video Captain Art Taylor of the Searcher and I did on this topic recently, here's the list and the basic explanations:


    5 RIGS; DON’T LEAVE THE DOCK WITHOUT THEM!

    1. 20-25 POUND RIG

    Reel- PENN Fathom star drag FTHII15SD or FTHII12SD

    Rod- Conventional 7 to 8-feet, rated for 10-25 or 12-30 pound lines

    Applications- Finesse live bait for school size bluefin & yellowfin tuna

    2. 30-POUND RIG

    Reel- PENN Torque 2-speed TRQ15LD2, PENN Fathom 2-speed FTH15LD2 or FTH15XNLD2

    Rod- Conventional 7 to 8-feet, rated for 15-40 pound lines

    Applications- All around live bait use for yellowtail, dorado, and finesse live bait tuna to 75 pounds

    3. 40-POUND RIG

    Reel- PENN Torque 2-speed TRQ25NLD2, PENN Fathom 2-speed FTH30NLD2 or FTH25NLD2

    Rod- Conventional 7 to 8-feet, rated for 25-50 or 30-60 pound lines

    Applications- Live bait use for tuna up to 100 pounds; light & medium jigs for tuna & yellowtail

    4. 60-80 POUND RIG

    Reel- PENN Torque 2-speed TRQ40NLD2, PENN Fathom 2-speed FTH40NLD2

    Rod Conventional 6.5 to 8-feet, rated for 30-80 or 40-100 pound lines

    Applications- Tuna up to to 175 pounds with live bait and fall-type jigs; yo-yo jigging for yellowtail

    5. 80-100 POUND RIG

    Reel- PENN International 2-speed 16VISX

    Rod- Conventional “Rail Rod” 6.5 to 7.5 feet, rated for 60-130 pound lines

    Applications- Live bait or fall-type jigs for tuna up to 300 pounds

    50# ?
     
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    This is more of a list for "within 150 miles if San Diego". If you really need 50, either #3 or #4 can handle it. Occasionally flylining is best done with 50, but not often enough to dedicate a rig for it.
    On the "Long Range" list, there is an additional rig, designated for 50 pound use with wahoo bombs, etc.
     
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    Where does the 12 VISX fit in? I'm planning to use one with a Seeker OSP 1x3 as a 60/80# (mostly 80#) sinker rig set up on my 1.5 next week. I also have a VISX 16 paired with a OSP 2×4 for flat fall fishing. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Where does the 12 VISX fit in? I'm planning to use one with a Seeker OSP 1x3 as a 60/80# (mostly 80#) sinker rig set up on my 1.5 next week. I also have a VISX 16 paired with a OSP 2×4 for flat fall fishing. Thanks in advance.



    12VISX is the same line capacity as the 40NLD2's, but the VISX are "heavy frame" vs. TRQ's which are "medium frame".
    Heavy frame reels are just fine for sinker rigs and flatfalls; in particular if you will primarily be using 80-pound topshots.
    Medium frame reels will perform better for flylining and casting jigs, with 60-pound being the "sweet spot" for 40NLD2's.
     
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    12VISX is the same line capacity as the 40NLD2's, but the VISX are "heavy frame" vs. TRQ's which are "medium frame".
    Heavy frame reels are just fine for sinker rigs and flatfalls; in particular if you will primarily be using 80-pound topshots.
    Medium frame reels will perform better for flylining and casting jigs, with 60-pound being the "sweet spot" for 40NLD2's.
    Got it, thank you!
     
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    Do you have the 90-minute video Captain Art Taylor of the Searcher?


    Yes, its right here on this page.
    Scroll down to the thread titled "VIDEO: Steve Carson and Art Taylor Discuss......"
     
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    This is an unconventional application but Penn Fathom II 25N SDP. We have been using 80 lb spectra to a short 80 lb leader for jigs, poppers and Snipers. The past few weeks we've landed many tuna in the 50-100 lb class while fishing foamers.

    The 4.8:1 gear ratio helps turn the tuna and land them quick. The reel and heavy line shortens the fight and increases our land ratio.
     
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    This is an unconventional application but Penn Fathom II 25N SDP. We have been using 80 lb spectra to a short 80 lb leader for jigs, poppers and Snipers. The past few weeks we've landed many tuna in the 50-100 lb class while fishing foamers.

    The 4.8:1 gear ratio helps turn the tuna and land them quick. The reel and heavy line shortens the fight and increases our land ratio.


    Sounds cool!
     
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    20 is questionable IMO as one can always add a floro top to a 30 lb outfit. However the rest are spot on.
     
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    20 is questionable IMO as one can always add a floro top to a 30 lb outfit. However the rest are spot on.



    Its not so much the diameter of the last few feet of fluoro, as allowing the bait to swim unfettered with the lightest possible topshot.
    You can actually do pretty well using a couple of feet of 30-pound fluoro attached to a 20-pound topshot [works well if you are getting chewed off].
    Also when using very small hooks, the stiffer rod of a 30-pound rig can cause more hook pulls.
    It is definitely true that you should use judgement before using a very light rig.
    If there is even a chance you might hook something over 50 pounds, leave it in the rack.
    However, when there are finicky 15-35 pounders around the boat, its a very effective tool.
     
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