Offshore Blue Horizon 9/7 All Day Trip Report

Interpaleo

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Took a little trip out on The Blue Horizon out of the Oceanside Sea Center on wed, 9/7. I thought I'd write up a summary for anyone thinking about giving this little landing a chance.

Background: fished in Oceanside many times last year on the Chubasco, 3/4s and halfs, good inshore fishing. Easy mellow trips. Went out on the Constitution 9/1, a fine boat imo that I fished many times and never had issues with. Personally caught 29 dorado, most in a day for me by far. My father thought that sounded like fun so him and another older friend had me set up a trip for us. They wanted a smaller boat with less people, no 50 person dorado mayhem crowds. We did a very nice trip on the Outrider in SD recently and had a top notch time with those guys. Small fast boats with light crowds are perfect for my Dad, who isn't a fan of battle fishing. So I booked us a trio of tickets on the Blue Horizon. Limit 22 passengers, looked fast. Some questionable fish counts mixed into this insane dorado bite but I thought hey that's no problem, not everyone nails it every day perfectly...

The Trip: We got there at 5, boarded by 5:25. Boat looked fine, little cramped but not terrible. They had blocked off the bunk rooms wich made me a little bummed, since I do like to drop into a bunk and sleep a couple hours for the ride home on most all day trips. Whatever, they don't want to clean another room, thats fine. I can stand around and talk too.

The vibe from the crew was a little down since they had missed the hot bite for a few days in a row, but we had high hopes of glory anyways. We grabbed a bit of bait, decent looking bait, and headed on out to sea. I was a little surprised at how extremely noticably slow the boat was moving...but again thats fine. I fish slow old boats sometimes and I know its all about getting there, doing things right, and making the fishing happen. We don't need to be first, just need to find our sportboat friends and join the party...

We chugged on out and north, not seeing any kelps. Around 10 we got up to the grounds, found our first kelp, tossed a couple baits way outside, no biters. Thats fine, they don't always bite. But the private boat next to use was full wipe open hookups...oh well on to find our own.

Which we DID!!!

We came up on one of those epic looking double kelps with dodos jumping everywhere, around 12:30. Better late than never! Haha glory was to be ours! When the deckhand, whose name I "forget" came on down to get the bait, he cheerily told us its all dead, except for a couple big macs twitching at the bottom.

The guy had pulled out a grate of some kind a while earlier and whatever it did it caused the tank to stop intaking fresh water, so in the hot noon sun they did not last long.

One lucky guy got one dorado on a chunked dean, pretty neat. I had one come up and headbutt my chunk but no bite. A off duty deckhand going for a free ride got one other dorado on a half dead mac. Another hard won catch. And then it was pain time...

Came up on yet another magic kelp with a sportboat bent all over their rails who wanted to share with us. We stopped, threw colt snipers etc but no takers. And thats how it went on our way back home. Saw a lot of fish in the water, saw a lot of people bent. No apology from the crew for killing the bait. Not even an acknowledgement that it was an issue...just fishing I guess. But this was a bit harder fishing than I felt was necessary.

Mario did a fine job cooking and seemed to be the only guy who cared that all our bait died.

So thats a little trip report for you guys. Some things for yourselves to consider as you book your next outing. I personally wont be booking any more from the Oceanside Sea Center. I do not feel like they provide a safe, productive, or fun experience. In the last year I have done trips on the Intrepid, Polaris Supreme, Constitution, Producer, Outrider, Pride, Fury, Clemente, and likely more I am just forgetting. I would fish with any of them again without hesitation. The Blue Horizon I will pass on
 

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Who cares what the cook thinks about the bait situation, what did the skipper say about your dissatisfaction?
 
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Interpaleo

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Who cares what the cook thinks about the bait situation, what did the skipper say about your dissatisfaction?
He was obviously disappointed but generally just kind of shrugged it off and pushed questions aside. The wheelhouse is completely open at the front of the boat so he more or less had a crowd of angry customers there until we docked. He kept trolling and saying we were looking still/hopefully we find something etc. At dock he said "sorry the fish didn't want to participate"
 
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    Sorry to hear about your misfortune. We've all had those kinds of trips and they make us appreciate the successful trips even more. If knowing that all the bait had died from some issue and assuming they fixed it, did the boat make any attempt to contact another sportie in the fleet for some more bait? Just wondering.
     
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    Interpaleo

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    Sorry to hear about your misfortune. We've all had those kinds of trips and they make us appreciate the successful trips even more. If knowing that all the bait had died from some issue and assuming they fixed it, did the boat make any attempt to contact another sportie in the fleet for some more bait? Just wondering.
    They were able to fix the issue right away, flushed the tank and got it flowing in minuets. Asking another sporty for a couple netfulls of bait would have been a good move and would have indeed addressed my, and most passengers main complaint.

    Stuff happens, trips go bad in many ways. Bad weather, fish cant be found or wont bite, and of course mechanical failure more than once. But in decades of sport boat fishing I have never seen a tank full of healthy bait die...and in the middle of a hot bite to add insult to disaster
     
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    Dang that’s rough. On one hand you gotta show some grace to whatever fool made the mistake cuz things happen… but on the other the captain and crew have to accept a little accountability some times.

    Like others say, your next successful trip will be all the sweeter.

    Thanks for the report.
     
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    FordFalcus

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    I went out on the Blue Horizon 20 years ago. Forgot about it until I saw this post. It was an overnight, worst trip ever. I never went back. Small, old, slow smelly boat. Surprised it's still running.
     
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    John56434

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    If you go out of Oceanside... just remember to bring your own boat... the charters there are going downhill. F3- we dont know where to fish

    Old captain that get all their money from 1.5 and half day bass blasting at the kelps
     
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    I was on a trip 2 years ago on the New Lo-An when to genset died. All the bait died with it. We were all bummed, but we all understood – things break. When we got back to the dock, we received a voucher good for a 1.5 day trip. They tried their best to make it good. I have fished on that boat many times since.
     
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    Squidwerd

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    Last year bait pump went out halfway to Catalina on the sporty i was on and they gave us all rain checks….they did this despite the fact that the captain stopped at the scorpion grounds on the way in and we all got 3-5 fish to take home.

    You dont shrug your shoulders and say oh well in a situation like that…,,you do the right thing and give them their money back
     
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    Jim
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    Blue Horizon
    Took a little trip out on The Blue Horizon out of the Oceanside Sea Center on wed, 9/7. I thought I'd write up a summary for anyone thinking about giving this little landing a chance.

    Background: fished in Oceanside many times last year on the Chubasco, 3/4s and halfs, good inshore fishing. Easy mellow trips. Went out on the Constitution 9/1, a fine boat imo that I fished many times and never had issues with. Personally caught 29 dorado, most in a day for me by far. My father thought that sounded like fun so him and another older friend had me set up a trip for us. They wanted a smaller boat with less people, no 50 person dorado mayhem crowds. We did a very nice trip on the Outrider in SD recently and had a top notch time with those guys. Small fast boats with light crowds are perfect for my Dad, who isn't a fan of battle fishing. So I booked us a trio of tickets on the Blue Horizon. Limit 22 passengers, looked fast. Some questionable fish counts mixed into this insane dorado bite but I thought hey that's no problem, not everyone nails it every day perfectly...

    The Trip: We got there at 5, boarded by 5:25. Boat looked fine, little cramped but not terrible. They had blocked off the bunk rooms wich made me a little bummed, since I do like to drop into a bunk and sleep a couple hours for the ride home on most all day trips. Whatever, they don't want to clean another room, thats fine. I can stand around and talk too.

    The vibe from the crew was a little down since they had missed the hot bite for a few days in a row, but we had high hopes of glory anyways. We grabbed a bit of bait, decent looking bait, and headed on out to sea. I was a little surprised at how extremely noticably slow the boat was moving...but again thats fine. I fish slow old boats sometimes and I know its all about getting there, doing things right, and making the fishing happen. We don't need to be first, just need to find our sportboat friends and join the party...

    We chugged on out and north, not seeing any kelps. Around 10 we got up to the grounds, found our first kelp, tossed a couple baits way outside, no biters. Thats fine, they don't always bite. But the private boat next to use was full wipe open hookups...oh well on to find our own.

    Which we DID!!!

    We came up on one of those epic looking double kelps with dodos jumping everywhere, around 12:30. Better late than never! Haha glory was to be ours! When the deckhand, whose name I "forget" came on down to get the bait, he cheerily told us its all dead, except for a couple big macs twitching at the bottom.

    The guy had pulled out a grate of some kind a while earlier and whatever it did it caused the tank to stop intaking fresh water, so in the hot noon sun they did not last long.

    One lucky guy got one dorado on a chunked dean, pretty neat. I had one come up and headbutt my chunk but no bite. A off duty deckhand going for a free ride got one other dorado on a half dead mac. Another hard won catch. And then it was pain time...

    Came up on yet another magic kelp with a sportboat bent all over their rails who wanted to share with us. We stopped, threw colt snipers etc but no takers. And thats how it went on our way back home. Saw a lot of fish in the water, saw a lot of people bent. No apology from the crew for killing the bait. Not even an acknowledgement that it was an issue...just fishing I guess. But this was a bit harder fishing than I felt was necessary.

    Mario did a fine job cooking and seemed to be the only guy who cared that all our bait died.

    So thats a little trip report for you guys. Some things for yourselves to consider as you book your next outing. I personally wont be booking any more from the Oceanside Sea Center. I do not feel like they provide a safe, productive, or fun experience. In the last year I have done trips on the Intrepid, Polaris Supreme, Constitution, Producer, Outrider, Pride, Fury, Clemente, and likely more I am just forgetting. I would fish with any of them again without hesitation. The Blue Horizon I will pass on
    Amazing Bro….. you have posted different opinions on other sites! You had 4 plus hours to come and talk to me, the captian and vessel owner in regards to your issue about the bait. Simple fact, like I said on other sites was our bait was loaded in 60.1 degree water and transferred to water that was 75 . What you say in this review is complete trash, you made an ass of yourself, and still didn’t have any sort of balls to come and talk to a captain that was only a couple of feet away from your whining, I had a bunch of regulars on the boat that day. yeah it really sucked we didn’t catch, but that happens, sorry you had a bad trip , but…. What you didn’t take home in a return on your 150.00 investment I guarantee my crew lost more than double that in lost fish cleaning and tips. So I don’t get where a crew member was “cheerily”in regards to the demise of our bait. Dude you have gone on multiple sites to try to trash our operation it’s about time you grow some sack and call me directly at 760 805 6263. Please show me you have some balls, you sure have not since your unfortunate day
     
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    One_Leg

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    Amazing Bro….. you have posted different opinions on other sites! You had 4 plus hours to come and talk to me, the captian and vessel owner in regards to your issue about the bait. Simple fact, like I said on other sites was our bait was loaded in 60.1 degree water and transferred to water that was 75 . What you say in this review is complete trash, you made an ass of yourself, and still didn’t have any sort of balls to come and talk to a captain that was only a couple of feet away from your whining, I had a bunch of regulars on the boat that day. yeah it really sucked we didn’t catch, but that happens, sorry you had a bad trip , but…. What you didn’t take home in a return on your 150.00 investment I guarantee my crew lost more than double that in lost fish cleaning and tips. So I don’t get where a crew member was “cheerily”in regards to the demise of our bait. Dude you have gone on multiple sites to try to trash our operation it’s about time you grow some sack and call me directly at 760 805 6263. Please show me you have some balls, you sure have not since your unfortunate day
    Jim, thanks for posting.

    Always important to know both sides of a story.
     
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    Interpaleo

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    I don't post on any other sites?
    Thats a confusing response, as expected.
    There were a couple regulars on board, sure. Me included. However, I am no longer a regular at your less than reputable landing. There are other options for me to fish out of and I will continue to not fish out of Oceanside.

    Not cool Jim. You could have made things better with a couple words. But no...too much trouble for you. Instead you wait six months to start issues online. A quick private message and I would have edited my post away. But no, you come on here and tell lies?

    I'll be sure to tell everyone I can about you now
     
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    Jim, thanks for posting.

    Always important to know both sides of a story.
    Jim, thanks for posting.

    Always important to know both sides of a sto
    I don't post on any other sites?
    Thats a confusing response, as expected.
    There were a couple regulars on board, sure. Me included. However, I am no longer a regular at your less than reputable landing. There are other options for me to fish out of and I will continue to not fish out of Oceanside.

    Not cool Jim. You could have made things better with a couple words. But no...too much trouble for you. Instead you wait six months to start issues online. A quick private message and I would have edited my post away. But no, you come on here and tell lies?

    I'll be sure to tell everyone I can about you now
    Jim, thanks for posting.

    Always important to know both sides of a story.
    Thanks One Leg - Honestly this really sucks. We as boat owners and operators want to provide the best experience for our customers, obviously it would be to our detriment to not do anything within our own means. We as professionals can only control, the cleanliness of the vessel, quality of the food and attitude of the crew. My crew is spectacular, very informative and helpful, they love their job as do I .For someone to challenge our determination in regards to an issue with our bait is completely insulting. Fact of the matter was we did load bait off our bait boat and it was 60.1 degree water, honestly that happened up and down on the coast over time as coastal upwelling was in effect. Then we had to take it to 75degre water,. Well one can only amagine what happens when a load of sardines, in a controlled environment without the ability to dive deep to cool their regulatory systems:happens, it was a constant loss. We did have l
    Pl has

    we fished all day with numerous kelps and breezing spots of dorado. Simple fact is we were 47 miles from our harbor at 130 in the afternoon, we were on our last live sardines at that point …. It was time to go home, yeah they gradually died throughout the day. But we did have opportunity before what was referenced. And we still obviously had sardine carcasses to chunk , and sometimes they get on the chunk and the strip, so why would I quit? I think everybody that bought a ticket on a boat would want that commitment,.We had fish as close as 4 miles from our harbor. We fished all the way to my last catch. And yes he implies about a safe environment? WTF! I’ve owned and operated this vessel with pride over 20 years and zero marine casualty incidents . All of the vessels from the Oceanside Sea Center have impeccable safety records.
     
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    I don't post on any other sites?
    Thats a confusing response, as expected.
    There were a couple regulars on board, sure. Me included. However, I am no longer a regular at your less than reputable landing. There are other options for me to fish out of and I will continue to not fish out of Oceanside.

    Not cool Jim. You could have made things better with a couple words. But no...too much trouble for you. Instead you wait six months to start issues online. A quick private message and I would have edited my post away. But no, you come on here and tell lies?

    I'll be sure to tell everyone I can about you now
    You still need to call me if you honestly have a true issue…. It’s about time you grow up
     
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    Finding a six month old, buried bad review of your boat and going off about it --- so it goes right back to the top and gets read twice as much -- that has to be the saltiest day boat skipper move I've ever seen


    Knowing nothing about this guy or his boat besides this thread I gotta say...


    I'd fish it
     
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    Cactus Chris

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    There were some tough days last year on the dorado bite. I had a couple trips where I went home empty handed. Problems with the bait certainly weren't unique to any particular captain or boat and there were some days that you just really had to work to get any bites at all. Hopefully this coming El Nino will bring them back again this year in even greater numbers and eagerness
     
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