Black dragon scale

[Jaysons999]

i picked up some black metallic alps thread. I’d like to do some black dragon scales on my rewrapped seeker 6480. Curious if anybody has tried to do the same. Any insight would be great thanks.

 

[swami 805]

I tried it in black but it didn’t really read that well for it did it in gu metal. Pretty close to black and it looks much better

 

[Slater]

GM dragon scales are awesome! Im sure JT has a pic of a black metallic ds somewhere...
I would agree, won't stand-out much...
Ive seen people burnish it to death so where the metallic black meets the underwrap / edges will be metallic silver...

 

[SouthBayKiller]

It sort of works but not nearly as well as most other metalics. The key to the dragon scale is the the difference in shade between the scales at different angles, but you can’t pick up the shading on the black well.
I used Bill’s picture to quickly and crudely illustrate what I mean:

If it was black, all 4 shades would be just black.

 

[Slater]

https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/urgent-request-for-input.343777/#post-2342519

 

[mikek]

I seem to recall someone on this forum wetting the wrap with acetone followed by heavy burnishing to get a pretty good dragon scale effect.

 

[Jaysons999]

Maybe I’ll rethink my approach. Try it on some scrap blank first. I’d like to stick to my black and white theme. I will be doing fade wraps over the scales anyhow. I’m wondering if using a thicker diameter mono under the metallic thread will create a more exaggerated affect.

 

[cow man]

I couldn’t get it to work, Didn’t show after the finish went on..

 

[skrilla]

Gudebrod Black Electra.

or

Black and gunmetal over scales. Think CTHD minus the top sacrificial layer.

 

[swami 805]

You use mono under wrap for dragonscale? Never would have figured that, learn something everyday!

 

[Mtnfshr]

You use mono under wrap for dragonscale? Never would have figured that, learn something everyday!

It actually makes more sense than thread. Whatever thread is used, will have a texture to it. By using A for the wrap over the layout threads,(for the best contrast and shadows) it can get caught in the texture. That makes burnishing more tricky. Mono is smoother. Or at least ought to be.

 

[swami 805]

Been using double E for the layout, the metallic bites into it pretty good. I spend more time packing it so there's hardly any gaps, burnishing metallic is a bitch. I'd imagine using heavier mono depending on the size of the diamond?

 

[FAT CAT]

Black metallic just looks like black nylon once finish is applied, so it won't have the reflective values that other metallic threads have and that's what makes the scales work.

 

[peteruveges]

i picked up some black metallic alps thread. I’d like to do some black dragon scales on my rewrapped seeker 6480. Curious if anybody has tried to do the same. Any insight would be great thanks.

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Did the black Alps mettalic thread work out?

 

[Mtnfshr]

Did the black Alps mettalic thread work out?
In a nutshell.... No. Metallic from any source is still metallic. It just looks black.

 

[Jaysons999]

Yeah just looks black… somewhat shiny. Never made it to a finished rod

 

[ProteusTails]

yea, but where are you finding any gudebrod?

Gudebrod Black Electra.

or

Black and gunmetal over scales. Think CTHD minus the top sacrificial layer.

 

[skrilla]

yea, but where are you finding any gudebrod?

In my thread drawer.

Also...

 

[ProteusTails]

I would be interested in any extras laying around...

Oh, I see the labels now

 

[skrilla]

It's pretty close, after epoxy anyway.

Gudebrod on the left, Prowrap on the right

Prowrap

Gudebrod

Gudebrod

Gudebrod

 

[ProteusTails]

Hey thats some cool Black Stardust, the creator had the origins down!

 

[Maing]

Here is some non, dry wall tape dragon scale

I use the same metalic thread to form the small diamond patterns and it come out very defined every time..

 

[Mtnfshr]

@Maing how does that address the OP's original question?

 

[Maing]

By using the same metallic thread you use to wrap with to bring out the scale
Pattern rather than mono. Like peviously mentioned.. i had thought about it as well.
does this satisfy the court???

 

[ssrmr2]

mono under the DS…. hmmm to create even greater contrast. I will have to attempt thanks for the tip.

I typically use spectra from left over spools.

black ds is awesome in the sunlight. that’s where it really pops.