Big fish / maybe cow capable rods

Texlee

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Jun 3, 2012
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I bought a couple of Calstar rods 760H-AR-6 rated 50-130, and a 7460H-AR-6 rated 50-130 a few years ago from a gent named Laurens Rinhold (sp). Nice guy. Seems like he told me he had caught a cow on these rods. I cant remember. Old age kicking in. Are either of these rods cow capable. I would have a 50VSX with 130 JB Hollow that I would bolt to it. Thanks. Tex.
 

Soda Pop

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Not my pick.... but if its the Laurens that fishes June Heat on the Rooster he is a honest guy.... Again I would rather go with a rod more capable of putting a cow on the deck. Also look for a 7 foot rod. You will get a lot of feedback on what rods you need..... but remember if you never cow fished you can use a few boat rods to see what you like.
 
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I love my custom rail rod with a rail dawg foregrip. It's built on a super seeker 3x5 blank a few years ago. I use it with Avet 50 filled with JB line one 130 hollow spectra. The biggest I caught is a 293 bluefin. Others use 2x4 blanks. I also have a calstar railrod on Avet 30 wide with 130 braid.

I agree with the 7 foot advice. Make sure it's a rail rod if you are fishing on a long range boat. Nobody uses harness anymore.

This is my "Big Dave" outfit.

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I have 2 each of these Rods, and I know Laurens. They are fully cow capable, mine are rated 80 to 130lb. I have caught multiple cows on them.

Problem is they are 10 to 15 years old technology. When everyone switched to 7+ foot rods years ago I stayed with my old stuff, works just fine for me, and while old school, they still work just fine.
 
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hucklongfin

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United Composites 7'6" Viper or Invictus for cows on the rail. I'd go with the Invictus for a 50 w/130#.
 

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Big Dave's biggest bluefin
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I let the boat use my 30 year old factory wrapped Sabre, all roller 6 ft rated to 130 on a 50 sw Penn 2 speed. The skipper lightened my heavy drag setting for an older gentleman and it took 700 yds off before going past strike. It took a few guys to pull on this cow that Jeff caught.

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Big Dave's biggest bluefin
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Here is my loaner rod and Jeff's cow in picture. It's a 6ft sabre fiberglass rod from back in 1985 it held up when Iron Mike and the Top Gun 80 crew hammered down the drag.


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Bill W

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I still live in the 7' rod era, but would like to move up to the 7'6". Randy Penny is the guru of rail rods and his new company, United Composites has some really good stuff. That said most of my big tuna stuff is Calstar in the 770 area. Laurens is one heck of a fisherman but that rod is shorter than what he fishes now. It still is a capable rod, and easier to move around the boat with. Depends on your style of fishing.
 

Texlee

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Thank yawl for the replies. I talked to him before I bought the rods and he came across as a gent. I knew the rods were going to be in great shape and they were and still are. I'm going to use the 7460H paired up with a 50 VSX as my trolling set up with a cow bell. Moooooooo. Watch out Hoo's. Tex.
 

cap_lr

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Howdy y'all. Hey Alben - glad to hear you are putting these rods to good use. Also glad to hear that everyone I fish with doesn't think I'm a total dickhead ;)

LR fishing is funny, for me at least... You start out with the bare bones and learn, build and adapt from there. On my very fist LR trip, I had one 50 sized reel - that it! I rented a 760H from the Fisherman's Landing and landed a 297# on it - that was my first tuna fish ever over 75#. I mostly just fought that fish in my harness because I didn't know anything different. When we returned, I figured that was a good rod to buy, so I bought one, and then a few more over the next few years. As time progressed and I learned more and more about rail fishing - I switched over to Calstar 770s and 775s (XXHs & XXXHs) which I fish exclusively now.

Bottom line is your rods are certainly "cow capable". In the words of my favorite LR skipper, however, they are not currently "state of the art".

Tight lines!

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I once used harness and gimbal type rod belt. But that is frowned upon now. I finally gave it up after losing tuna while I transitioned from standup to the rail. Don't ever let them get out of the death spiral.
 

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Big Dave's biggest bluefin
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Here I'm still using standup gear in 2014.

But I don't even bring hard belt any more.

The 7 foot rail rod helps when the fish tries to get into the prop or under the boat.

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I use Calstar GF7465XH, XXH & XXXH with rollers and gimbals for 100, 130 & 150 lbs. respectively. Rail rod it most of the time, but wear a spyder harness for back-up. After 20+ years of LR fishing, I guess I am old-school...

Your gear will work well if used wisely!

- Jeff Burroughs
 

writebrian

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Elitetv1958

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Not my pick.... but if its the Laurens that fishes June Heat on the Rooster he is a honest guy.... Again I would rather go with a rod more capable of putting a cow on the deck. Also look for a 7 foot rod. You will get a lot of feedback on what rods you need..... but remember if you never cow fished you can use a few boat rods to see what you like.
X2 on Laurens being a straight shooter. He’s a regular on the RR 16/13 day after Thanksgiving. If he says he got a cow with them... he got a cow with them.
 
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Texlee

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Alben Lee
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Howdy y'all. Hey Alben - glad to hear you are putting these rods to good use. Also glad to hear that everyone I fish with doesn't think I'm a total dickhead ;)

LR fishing is funny, for me at least... You start out with the bare bones and learn, build and adapt from there. On my very fist LR trip, I had one 50 sized reel - that it! I rented a 760H from the Fisherman's Landing and landed a 297# on it - that was my first tuna fish ever over 75#. I mostly just fought that fish in my harness because I didn't know anything different. When we returned, I figured that was a good rod to buy, so I bought one, and then a few more over the next few years. As time progressed and I learned more and more about rail fishing - I switched over to Calstar 770s and 775s (XXHs & XXXHs) which I fish exclusively now.

Bottom line is your rods are certainly "cow capable". In the words of my favorite LR skipper, however, they are not currently "state of the art".

Tight lines!

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Hay Laurens. Great to hear from you. Didn't know if you were still around or not. I've taken the rods I've bought from you on every trip I've been on. Always had them ready with a reel on each one. So far they are still virgins in my hands. Maybe this year will change. I'm going to use the 7460H as my trolling rod. I found a good deal (new) on a 50VSX (Dam thing came in silver. Penn Internationals are supposed to be gold not silver). Nevertheless I'm going to use the 50 silver on the 7460H and use my other 50 on a true cow rod. I respect very much the knowledge that Fishybuzz has...and I know he would not steer a person the wrong way. He advised me to invest in a UC 76 Viper for my cow rod. I ordered it yesterday afternoon. Hopefully the blue fin will still be there when we leave on 9-23 and I can get a shot at one. If not, Rodless Jim has already told me that I'm going on a cow trip with him down south. That's still a few years out. But investing in a 76 Viper is a start to my cow quiver. Take care my friend. If we get a shot at the blue fin and I snag one I will post it up. If it's not a cow so be it. I'm just happy to be out on the water. Tex.
 

hucklongfin

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Good call. My Viper with a silver Mak 20 will be there on the 23rd.