Best (without breaking the bank) Deepwater reel

Paul Marias

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Will be in Neah Bay for Halibut/Lings in May. Need 2 new reels because I haven't fished 500 ft of water before and would like two 2 speed reel for "easy" up and down. I think I want a line counter as well. Yes I know electric reels are easiest but I'm not ready to go there yet. Any ideas are appreciated
 
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AKSalmon

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You may want to rethink your two speed preference: The high gear may get the bait up fast but high speed gears have speed, not power. If you fish 3 or 4 pounds of lead to get deep, you'll likely be using low gear more than high gear. A single speed reel with 4:1 gars is about right. BTW: I now of no two speed reels with line counters. Look at a Shimano Tekota 700.
 

Paul Marias

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You may want to rethink your two speed preference: The high gear may get the bait up fast but high speed gears have speed, not power. If you fish 3 or 4 pounds of lead to get deep, you'll likely be using low gear more than high gear. A single speed reel with 4:1 gars is about right. BTW: I now of no two speed reels with line counters. Look at a Shimano Tekota 700.
I just figured the second gear would be nice when not reeling in a fish to get up and down. Thanks for the input
 

Paul Marias

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While I'm picking brains do most use a line counter when fishing deep or just drop it til it hits bottom and reel it til it hits the top? I just figured having an idea how far you have o go would be a nice perk.
 

Hismosa

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While I'm picking brains do most use a line counter when fishing deep or just drop it til it hits bottom and reel it til it hits the top? I just figured having an idea how far you have o go would be a nice perk.
Drop til hits bottom. Counters are more for setting a certain depth with downriggers IMO
 

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I just go to the bottom, but you can always get colored line. Each color represents x amount of feet.
 
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tunanorth

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The mechanism that drives a line counter is not especially able to handle heavy-duty tasks. As mentioned there are no 2-speeds with a line counter.
If staying under $200 is a hard ceiling for a "new" reel, the Senator 114L2 or 114H2 would seem to be the choice.
If you can go 20 bucks over the $200, a PENN Fathom II 50LW checks most of the other boxes if you want a levelwind.
 

Paul Marias

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The mechanism that drives a line counter is not especially able to handle heavy-duty tasks. As mentioned there are no 2-speeds with a line counter.
If staying under $200 is a hard ceiling for a "new" reel, the Senator 114L2 or 114H2 would seem to be the choice.
If you can go 20 bucks over the $200, a PENN Fathom II 50LW checks most of the other boxes if you want a levelwind.
I can spend more, and probably will because I definitely want level wind. Thank you
 

tunanorth

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I can spend more, and probably will because I definitely want level wind. Thank you

You also did not specify what line test/type you plan to use, or line capacity you prefer.
The Fathom FTHII50LW holds over 700/80 braid, metal frame/sideplate, gear ratio of 3.7-1 [30 IPT], and is 27 ounces [compared to 44-47 ounces for 114 Senators], 30 pounds max drag [compared to 21-22 pounds for 114's].
 

Arima-bob

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You also did not specify what line test/type you plan to use, or line capacity you prefer.
The Fathom FTHII50LW holds over 700/80 braid, metal frame/sideplate, gear ratio of 3.7-1 [30 IPT], and is 27 ounces [compared to 44-47 ounces for 114 Senators], 30 pounds max drag [compared to 21-22 pounds for 114's].
Cow tuna have been landed on old senators. :D
 

Arima-bob

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I can’t say that I have, but we did land a 150 pound mako with the old 114 a few years ago. Reel handled it no problem
 

Paul Marias

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You also did not specify what line test/type you plan to use, or line capacity you prefer.
The Fathom FTHII50LW holds over 700/80 braid, metal frame/sideplate, gear ratio of 3.7-1 [30 IPT], and is 27 ounces [compared to 44-47 ounces for 114 Senators], 30 pounds max drag [compared to 21-22 pounds for 114's].
I will be using 80 lb braid so and yeah I think I have decided on the Fathom II
 
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