Best Rig for Sinker Rig BFT; Shogun May 18-23; And More Quiver Questions

2Rotten

Live in Oregon/Love to Fish San Diego!
Jan 10, 2010
280
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Junction City OR
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Rod Lathrop
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24' North River Seahawk Hardtop "Sun Dog"
My quiver, Light to Heavy:
UC Tilefish Jr + Torque 25 nld2 - 30#
UC Terminator + Torque 30/2 - 40#
UC Predator + Fathom 30/2 - 50#
UC GP Terminator + Fathom 40 nld2 - 60#
UC Centaur + Mak 16 SEa - 80#
UC Viper + Mak 20 SEa - 100#
UC Zeus 3 + Fathom 40 nld2 - 60# (Knife Jigs)

Questions:
(1) Is 7 sticks too many for a 4-day?

(2) Which of these rigs is the best one for Sinker Rig? Too light and you can't handle a big BFT. Too heavy, do you have to worry about not getting bit? The candidates in my mind are the 60# or 80# rigs.

(3) Is there a mission on a 4-day for the 50# stick? Have always heard that they will eat 60 if they will eat 50. Should I leave the Predator/Fathom 30 behind? Would this rig be more capable/useful if I upgraded the Fathom 30/2 to a Fathom 40 nld2?

(4) I am planning to use the Viper + Mak 20 for night time flat falls (first trip for this rig; gotta bring it!). Is there value in bringing the Centaur + Mak 16 also, or are these essentially duplicates for a trip like this?

Thanks for any thoughts.
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BluefinCurly

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When they bit the sinker rig last year, I used both 80 early, late, and when they bit good, I dropped to 60 when they were hanging but not biting as well.

My 80# rig was a custom wrapped 2x4 with a 16VISX, and my 60# rig was a US Predator with a 12VISX.

My Terminator is a prime 40# rig (IMO) with a Torque 25NLD2.

7 rigs is not too much for a 4 day. I usually take 8.
 
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2Rotten

Live in Oregon/Love to Fish San Diego!
Jan 10, 2010
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Junction City OR
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Rod Lathrop
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24' North River Seahawk Hardtop "Sun Dog"
Thanks for the reply BFCurly. Gonna bring all 7, move the Fathom 40 nld2 from the GP Terminator to the Predator, give it a little better chance on a big'un than the Fathom 30/2. Ordered a Mak 15T SEa for the GP Terminator, this will be my #1 60# rig. Use the Centaur/Mak 16 w/80# leader for sinker rig if the bite is good, drop down to the GP Terminator/Mak 15T w/60# leader if the bite becomes more scratchy. Can't wait to hook a Flat Fall fish on the Viper/Mak 20 w/100#!
 

invictus

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7 is definitely not too many.

As to size, heaviest you can get bit. Be realistic, hanging fish on 50 that you’ll go 1/6 on for four hours, or hanging 2 on 80 that you’ll get a gaff in.

Definitely NOT too many set ups.
 
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2Rotten

Live in Oregon/Love to Fish San Diego!
Jan 10, 2010
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Junction City OR
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Rod Lathrop
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24' North River Seahawk Hardtop "Sun Dog"
I see a trend of people favoring small heavy duty reels for jig work here...

I used to run a Penn Fathom 25 nld2 on my Zeus 3 jigging stick... Last fall the deck hand on New Lo-An shook his head and said I should upgrade it to the 40 nld2 (which I did). Of course the BFT were running big and mean but not hungry that day. Of the 3 big fish we hooked, only 1 ended well...
 
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Troy
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Fun Ones
I used to run a Penn Fathom 25 nld2 on my Zeus 3 jigging stick... Last fall the deck hand on New Lo-An shook his head and said I should upgrade it to the 40 nld2 (which I did). Of course the BFT were running big and mean but not hungry that day. Of the 3 big fish we hooked, only 1 ended well...
Yeah I’ve going to the VISX 12 for 60lb and mainly 80lb work. Just better gearing and more capacity, all there is to it. I wish Penn would recognize that there isn’t just a small number of people who’d want a reel like that.
 

afraser

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Not too many rigs at all. I feel empty handed with less than 10. That said I think your mix is light on heavy rigs. You need at least 2 100lb rigs, especially if it’s a night bite. Personally, I have 2 100lb flat fall rigs, a 100lb bait rig, and a “stealth” 100lb rig that I put a long 80lb leader on. 2 flat fall rigs is key as the bite may only last 5 minutes and if you get cut off or have some other failure, you miss it. Also, 1-2 under 50lb rigs are plenty, you don’t need separate 25 and 40lb rigs unless it’s for a different type of fishing (eg surface iron or yoyo). You can always adjust your leader if you have to drop down.