Bayliner Trophy or Seaswirl Striper?

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  1. BrokeLoser

    BrokeLoser Member

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    I'm still debating on my direction for a walkaround cuddy....
    Right now I'm looking at a 1991 21' Trophy with a 150hp force outboard and a 1991 22' Striper with a 150hp Evinrude outboard.
    Both are cuddys and appear to be the same overall condition

    Which is a better boat overall?

    Thanks!
     
  2. la vida

    la vida Now I love our Prezzz!!!

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    Striper.
     
  3. Slater

    Slater cuss on Monday,pray on Sunday,dream about one day

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    force = junk
     
  4. BrokeLoser

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    I'm definitely leaning toward the Striper...mostly because I've heard that Force is crap.
     
  5. gved823

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    Go with striper, force sucks, I had one and just replaced with merc
     
  6. Slater

    Slater cuss on Monday,pray on Sunday,dream about one day

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    Had a 1995 trophy cuddy hardtop with a 125 force, definetly was underpowered. Weather was coming-up in LJ & fired it off to head back to the barn & put a nice window in the block when one of pistons connecting rod decided to let go. Repowered with a 200yami, really woke her up!
    Guess it could have happened with any outboard but you always here about issues with Force & ive experienced it!
    Force has less technological sophistication of the other major outboard brands, would imagine some parts are starting to be hard to find & / or more costly.
     
  7. openclass

    openclass Grand Master

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    Striper
     
  8. castin crew

    castin crew Newbie

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    my dad bought a brand new 21 ft bayliner cuddy in 1990 with a force motor and it reliably broke down every other trip it blew up with 6 hours on it
     
  9. gonzo25

    gonzo25 GOT A BIG ONE

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    This is a joke right? You aren't really serious are you? That is like comparing an old VW and a GTO... oh wait, some of you probably don't know what those are...

    There is nothing wrong with the Force, I have an 87 bayliner with a Force 50 on it, original owner, and it has never left me broke down on the water... came back on one cyl. a few times but it always got me home. They are/were cheap motors that were put together with parts that were three or four years behind the time, so they were never state of the art, most motors get their hp rating at the prop, Force got theirs at the flywheel.... So that 125 hp is really a 90... and that is why they were never considered fast. I have several friends who have them and have never had any problems with them... if you maintain them they will last for about 800 hrs. There were 17 different models of the 50 hp in 1987... that is like a different model every three weeks, some with good electronic ign. and some (like mine) have battery points style ign. Which is fine in my 1956 chevy, but in a boat? BUT there isn't a motor out there that is as easy to work on as this one.

    Buy the fucking striper... What you should do is bail both of them and get a good boat.... go out and get an Invader.
     
  10. gecsr1

    gecsr1 28' Aquasport "Reel Adventure II"

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    the boats are both entry level...the force motor is not a good choice...
     
  11. FINADDICT*

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    i think the force motor was part mercury?not sure but if the mercury engine had a speck of "uh oh" on it at the factory, they slapped a force sticker on it...had a force 115 on a crestliner...never let me down..good luck..
     
  12. gonzo25

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    Force was originally made by Chrysler, copied Mercury motors and used obsolete Mercury parts to build a cheap motor, Mercury bought them out at the end of 1987. They are super easy to work on, or at least the 50 hp model I have is.
     
  13. Phat Boat

    Phat Boat I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Force 125 may be the worse motor ever made. Go with the striper.
     
  14. NO4NMTL

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    buy the Striper and offer the guy with the trophy a $10 bucks for the force outboard it will make a great ANCHOR
     
  15. armand

    armand Newbie

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    22' Striper with a 150hp Evinrude
     
  16. BrokeLoser

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    Well, it looks like the Striper gets the vote from you all...hands down!

    Thanks everyone!
     
  17. jayyyy

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    If the boat and motor check out I think you will be happy with the Striper. That vintage Evenrude is very reliable and durable, I've fished on a couple Striper's quite a bit and was very impressed.
     
  18. Katmandu

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    Enough said. Go with Striper. As everyone have said, Force sucks. I had one on my previous boat. Even the Mercury certified repair place said they suck.
     
  19. Blackfish

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  20. kindafishy

    kindafishy I've posted enough I should edit this section

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