Bait tank upgrade help

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  1. taybo

    taybo Newbie

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    Looking to get a bigger bait tank. If I have a 1200GPH bait pump, what is the biggest bait tank I can have that will keep the bait alive? any past experience, knowledge, or insight would be greatly appreciated.
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  2. bman440440

    bman440440 I am the one who knocks!!!

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    its not so much about the GPH of your pump but the quality of your tank... a top quality tank can take a hi flow pump and not kill your bait because of the diffused flow of the water... for example my buddy had a custom pacific edge 35 gallon tank with a 1600 GPH pump that would keep bait all day/night/week with little to no die off because it was built properly... on the flip side I have had a cheap 30 gallon tank with a 500 GPH pump on it and it would kill bait... reason because the current inside the tank was to much for the bait to handle... you want just enough current in there to keep them swimming in a circle and not swimming to death doing it... what boat is the tank for?
     
  3. flyhigh123

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    Better would be get the biggest bait tank you want and then buy the proper pump to match factoring in headloss.
     
  4. strackle99

    strackle99 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    There are more factors to consider than just GPH and size of tank.

    A lot goes into a properly engineered system.
     
  5. dcarlisle

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    What he said. Your 1200 gph pump may be putting out as little as half (and sometimes less) factoring the rise from the pump to the tank, head pressure (the pressure that is exerted back onto the incoming water due to the height of water above the outlet), and system voltage (your pump will pump less at 12v than at 13.8 volts, as well as the type of boat and inlet strainer. If you are running around at 25kts with a forward facing scoop, you may be ramming too much water into the tank. Then when you slow down, the flow will dramatically reduce. Or just the opposite if the pump is mounted too high and no scoop, when on plane it may be cavitating, but when you settle back into the water at trolling speed, the pump suction is below the waterline causing good flow (this is for the average non-self priming pump)
    Pumps are cheap compared to the tank. Get the best tank you can get, mount it as center as you can (to minimize the rolling and pitching) and talk to the tank manufacture about flow requirements.
    Once you know the requirement for flow, it is relatively easy to measure the flow rate accurately. You may find you need to throttle down the flow, etc, etc
    Bait is too expensive these days to get thrifty with the setup.
     
  6. taybo

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    thanks for the info guys that's exactly what i was looking to hear! i appreciate the insight and knowledge shared. I guess I will start looking at bait tanks and go from there!
     
  7. Fishingguy

    Fishingguy I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I personally just went through this with ordering a tank for my new Parker…here is what would suggest.

    Work backwards..

    Figure out how much bait you would like to carry for what your boat can handle or style of fishing you do.

    Then figure out the best bait tank to get (pacific edge or blue water)

    Then get suggestions for what size pump.

    And you should be good to go.

    Mine was:

    1. i want 3-5 scoops for my 23 footer. (yes, thats a lot)
    2. pacific edge was able to cater to my needs….and build me a custom one.
    3. 1600 gph pump slighly throttled down.

    All works perfect and ready for the season :)

    Hope that helps
     
  8. skvet2002

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    5 scoop bait tank for a 23 fter. Holy shit. How big of a tank did you get?
     
  9. Fishingguy

    Fishingguy I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I would say pushing 5 with chivies…maybe not dines….then again havent really tested with dines yet.

    I ordered a pe60 from Mark Wisch (Pacific Edge). Then I had it custom made 2 inches higher to hold another 7 gallons. so its 67 gallons total.

    Let me see if i can post some pictures. its quite big. but doesnt take too much of deck
     
  10. Fishingguy

    Fishingguy I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Here are some pics. Don't have measurements off the top of my head.

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    Papa "J" I've posted enough I should edit this section

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