Bada Bing/Carl/Phat Boat try to save a man's life during a fire, fatal ending

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  1. nunyabizness1

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    Bada Bing (John Hansen), Carl and Phat Boat (Jon) tried to save a neighbor's life in a fire today which unfortunately ended as a fatality. So sorry for what you had to go through today guys. What a devastating day this must have been for you. Thank you for trying to help while putting your own lives in danger.


    News video clip with Bada Bling interview and story here:

    http://www.10news.com/news/27694216/detail.html



    Fatal PB Apartment Fire Was In 'Brownout' Area

    43-Year-Old Quadriplegic Found Dead In Fire In 2000 Block Of Diamond Street


    POSTED: 3:02 pm PDT April 27, 2011
    UPDATED: 9:47 pm PDT April 27,

    SAN DIEGO -- A 43-year-old quadriplegic was found dead in his bed on Wednesday after firefighters doused a blaze in an apartment building in a Pacific Beach neighborhood affected by city budget-cutting reductions in emergency-services availability.


    The blaze in the 2000 block of Diamond Street was reported shortly before 2 p.m. John Hanson told 10News his friend was helpless in his burning apartment.

    "I knew he was in there," said Hanson.


    When Hanson, who lives next door and his friends heard someone yell, "Fire", they sprang into action.

    Carl Stewart called 911 and joined others who grabbed garden hoses and sprayed it into the burning apartment.

    "All three of us had hoses in the window… right in the window behind those banana trees," said Stewart.



    Hanson said he ran to the front door and tried to get into the apartment.

    "The black smoke coming out of that place was horrific," he said.

    It took crews just under 10 minutes to extinguish the flames, which were confined to one ground-floor rental unit and caused an estimated $60,000 worth of damage, according to San Diego Fire-Rescue Department spokesman Maurice Luque.


    Investigators determined that the blaze, which caused no other injuries, erupted when a cigarette the disabled man was smoking ignited the medicinal oxygen he used, Luque said.


    "He's been bedridden for a solid six months, so I knew he was there… When we were dumping water on that fire, we were dumping it on him," said Hanson. The resident's name was withheld pending notification of his family.

    Under a 14-month-old cost-cutting plan, the victim's neighborhood was subject to an emergency-response "brownout." Thus, the nearest fire station did not have a fire engine at its disposal -- a situation that resulted in a 90-second lag in firefighting response while a water tank- and hose-equipped vehicle was dispatched from La Jolla, Luque said.


    The call about the fire came in at 1:53 p.m. The nearest fire engine available – Engine 21 – was browned out due to budget cuts. Ladder Truck 21, which carries no water or hose, was dispatched from the same station on Grand Avenue and arrived within six minutes of the call. Engine 9, which carries water, was dispatched from Ardath Lane. It arrived a minute and a half later.

    The spokesman told reporters he could not say whether the life of the victim, described as a chain smoker, potentially could have been saved if not for that delay.


    "All I can do is stick to the facts," he said. "And the facts are that our first apparatus in was a truck, (and) it did not have water. The first water arrived ... a minute and a half later. During that period of time, a minute and a half -- that's a lot of time for a fire to free-burn as it did in this case."

    Due to the explosive origin of the blaze, however, even the quickest possible response might have made no difference, the spokesman said.

    A caretaker employed by the man had left earlier in the day, leaving him alone in the apartment, according to Luque.


    Under the brownout program, which went into effect in February 2010, engine companies at 13 of the city's 47 fire stations are deactivated for a month at a time on a rotating basis, leaving up to eight of them unavailable each day. The firefighters who otherwise would staff those vehicles fill in for other crew members who are absent from duty.


    The program was aimed at saving the city about $11.5 million in overtime expenditures and was part of a proposal that Mayor Jerry Sanders floated in 2009 in a bid to close a $179 million budget shortfall. The City Council approved the cuts in December of that year.


    The mayor's latest budget proposal for the upcoming fiscal year would phase out the brownout policy, returning four fire engines on July 1 and the rest at the beginning of next year. Restoring the full fleet of water-pumping vehicles also has been a top stated priority of the City Council.

    At least two other fatal emergencies have prompted concerns and protests over the cost-saving city service reductions.


    Last July, a toddler choked to death on a gumball in a Mira Mesa neighborhood affected by the cutbacks, prompting Fire Chief Javier Mainar to concede that the prevailing brownout "had a negative impact on our ability to provide service."

    Though the home where the 2-year-old boy was stricken is a block from a fire station, an engine had to be sent from the South Bay, and it arrived 9 1/2 minutes after the family's 911 call. The child was pronounced dead at a hospital about an hour later.


    In March of last year, a 78-year-old man died when a fire tore through his apartment on Broadway in Golden Hill.

    Crews from a fire station a quarter-mile to the east arrived less than 30 seconds after receiving an emergency call reporting the blaze, but they were aboard a truck with no water-hose capability. A fire engine from a Barrio Logan station arrived about four minutes later.

    While dousing the flames, crews found the man's body near a bathroom inside the smoke-filled residence.


    As with today's beach-area fatal blaze, Luque said it was uncertain if the victim of the Golden Hill fire might have been saved by a quicker emergency response.

    "It's one of those things that you can debate," he said at the time.

    That fatality led Councilwoman Marti Emerald's office to issue a harsh critique of the crew-reduction policy.

    "From the beginning, council member Emerald has been seriously concerned about the potential impact on public safety posed by the engine-closure program," the statement read.

    The brownouts involve all the "double house" stations in the city -- those that normally have trucks and engines at their disposal. "Single houses," which only have engines, are not subject to the rotating reductions.

    Even before the cutbacks went into effect, nearly two dozen firehouses in San Diego already fell short of a nationally accepted standard for response times, according to Emerald.


    The following city firehouses are subject to the rotating staff reductions:


    -- Station 1, downtown, 1222 First Ave.;
    -- Station 4, downtown, 404 Eighth Ave.;
    -- Station 10, College area, 4605 62nd St.;
    -- Station 11, Golden Hill, 945 25th St.;
    -- Station 12, Lincoln Park, 4964 Imperial Ave.;
    -- Station 14, North Park, 4011 32nd St.;
    -- Station 20, Midway, 3305 Kemper St.;
    -- Station 21, Pacific Beach, 750 Grand Ave.;
    -- Station 28, Kearny Mesa, 3880 Kearny Villa Road;
    -- Station 29, San Ysidro, 198 W. San Ysidro Blvd.;
    -- Station 35, University City, 4285 Eastgate Mall;
    -- Station 40, Rancho Penasquitos, 13393 Salmon River Road; and
    -- Station 44, Mira Mesa, 10011 Black Mountain Road.
     
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2011
  2. Blackfish

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    way to go guys and hats off to you and the fire crew...wish it had a better outcome.


    but the political slant and the biases of this story sucks..


    "..Investigators determined that the blaze, which caused no other injuries, erupted when a cigarette the disabled man was smoking ignited the medicinal oxygen he used, Luque said.

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    """"A 43-year-old quadriplegic was found dead in his bed on Wednesday after firefighters doused a blaze in an apartment building in a Pacific Beach neighborhood affected by city budget-cutting reductions in emergency-services availability"""" :finger:


    The only person responsible for this guys death was "the guy".
     
  3. Ali

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    Wow. Sorry to hear this guys. That sucks.
     
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    John & Carl, Thanks for trying guys. You are both heros in my eyes.
     
  5. Albacrazy

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    Word!:notworthy
     
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    Crazy!
     
  7. Carl

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    I typed a longer response to this moments ago and went to submit my post and time had elapsed and I was no longer logged in.
    Abridged report:

    John, Jon (Phat Boat) and myself tried like hell to get to Rich and save him.
    Including multiple attempts at getting through the smoke etc. It was impossible....:(
    We were more successful at keeping the fire beat down and consuming the bldg. til the FD arrived.

    RIP Rich, we hope your in a better place.
     
  8. LTBOLTMAN

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    way to go guys...those garden hoses no doubt kept that fire in check from doing more damage
     
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    nice effort boys, sorry for the loss of your friend, stinks
     
  10. jagerhunchback

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    X2, there are alot of bad motherfuckers on this board, john and carl are two more of them. good on you guys!!!!
     
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    I'm trying to understand how a quadriplegic has the physical ability to be a chain smoker...but that is very very sad...poor guy..good on you guys for trying to help...many people in this world choose to turn a blind eye to a fellow human in need under all kinds of circumstances...
     
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    Sorry it didn't work out.
     
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    X4 Dont blame yourselves, guys.....you did what you could.

    RIP Rich.
     
  14. Surfdoc

    Surfdoc The finger in the Dyke!

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    You guys earned some serious Karma points for this one... proud to have ya as part of the BD family!

    But Carl..........don't think this stops getting fucked with in the future!
     
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    Thought I recognized the guy on the TV this morning. Sorry I didn't make the connection. I kept wondering where I saw the building before. Turns out I insure it for the owner.

    Carl....Bada Bing......you guys are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Always felt good vibes from you guys. Now I know why. :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy


    Drinks are on me next time I see you boys. :hali_olutta::hali_olutta:
     
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    Sorry for the loss of your friend guys, you really stepped up to the plate with your efforts.
     
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    :notworthy you guys rock. Enough can't be said.
     
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    Glad to call you homos my friends. Valiant effort.
     
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    Valiant effort guy's

    Sorry for the loss of your friend.....
     
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