Azores Spinning Reels???

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Anyone have any experience/feedback using these new Okuma spinning reels?
I am debating over the Azores 55 vs Penn Clash 5000.....
 
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The Azores is good, the Clash is probably better. Penn is on a real winning streak with its spinners right now, I'd give it a shot.

Okumas are always good though, I wouldn't hesitate on either.

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No I haven't fished the Azores. I've read the reviews on both.
 
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I'm going to give the Azores(55) a shot this year
 
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    Gerry, you should check out Alan Hawk's website before you decide. He did an extremely complete review with excellent pictures of the Clash model above the one you are thinking about just last January, and found some issues that would make me pause. The Azores 55 is at the top of his current quality/value list for "Best General Use Saltwater Reels Under $150."

    I took his recommendation and bought the Fin-Nor Lethal 100 and Lethal 60 last summer, and am very satisfied. They are both the reel equivalents of Humvee trucks, not smooth like my Shimano spinners but insanely tough. Bluefin tuna to 50 pounds, caught as quickly as on any of my single speed conventional reels. And absurdly inexpensive.
     
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    Gerry, you should check out Alan Hawk's website before you decide. He did an extremely complete review with excellent pictures of the Clash model above the one you are thinking about just last January, and found some issues that would make me pause. The Azores 55 is at the top of his current quality/value list for "Best General Use Saltwater Reels Under $150."

    I took his recommendation and bought the Fin-Nor Lethal 100 and Lethal 60 last summer, and am very satisfied. They are both the reel equivalents of Humvee trucks, not smooth like my Shimano spinners but insanely tough. Bluefin tuna to 50 pounds, caught as quickly as on any of my single speed conventional reels. And absurdly inexpensive.

    If you know the Clash reel as well as I do you would know that "Alan Hawk's" review was his worst hack job yet. Sorry, there is just no way to sugar coat that. There are many deliberate distortions (like comparing the weight of the reel) to paint it in the very worst light he can manage.

    He also did not review the Clash 5000 which is a brilliant and lightweight reel for the money.

    Fin Nor Lethal 100s have been snapping at the stem very regularly so be careful with yours. If "Alan Hawk" had half the integrity he claims he would put the reel on his list of reels that cannot be recommended until the issue is resolved.

    The Azores is a very nice inexpensive reel with a brilliant drag. The under spool drag washer is a bit exposed and needs some Cal's grease to prevent salt intrusion.

    The Clash uses a little better gear train to be a little tougher. Both will land a load of fish for the money in the SoCal bight.

    Sorry Surfgoose! Not a criticism of you at all. :)
     
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    Would you care to elaborate? Or just throw him under the bus!

    See the above post. But we should keep in mind this is the Okuma forum and not use it to discuss Penn products out of respect for the forum sponsor.
     
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    You have my great respect, John. I sell a lot of Penn reels every week, and think that they are an outstanding manufacturer. I have a lot of respect for Alan Hawk too, and think that the issues that he brings up, with photographs to prove his points, is the single major factor driving the improvements that are being made in spinning reels by all of the various manufacturers.

    Nobody in business likes to have problems pointed out, either design or production issues or marketing department exaggerations. But smart companies (and Penn is now a really smart company, completely different from a decade ago) keep looking for ways to be even better.
     
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    You have my great respect, John. I sell a lot of Penn reels every week, and think that they are an outstanding manufacturer. I have a lot of respect for Alan Hawk too, and think that the issues that he brings up, with photographs to prove his points, is the single major factor driving the improvements that are being made in spinning reels by all of the various manufacturers.

    Nobody in business likes to have problems pointed out, either design or production issues or marketing department exaggerations. But smart companies (and Penn is now a really smart company, completely different from a decade ago) keep looking for ways to be even better.

    Absolutely Gary, but inventing controversy to make one seem like an Elmer Gantry saving hapless and naive fishos from evil reel makers to create an aura of (false) objectivity seems to be the current "Alan Hawk" shtick.

    He ignores far larger issues in the Fin Nor Lethal 100 when it suits him. Line lay issues (main shaft out of spec) that should have never left the factory...Handles snapping, stems snapping....see the disconnect?

    Sorry, again, not a reflection on you Goose.


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    surfgoose

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    No worries, John. Anything designed and built by man can and will have problems and issues. In my miss-spent youth in the late 60's I had a Porsche, and the fellow I bought it from warned me about the oversteer issue which had scared the crap out of him. I loved it, I was drifting many decades before movies made it popular for Japanese sedans.

    As you said, this is the Okuma forum, and I should have just pointed out the positive standing Mr. Hawk gave to the Azores 55 and left the rest out. And the Clash is miles ahead of the Penn Spinfisher which I used with great effect during the 80's and 90's, and still have to this day.
     
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    fishfish

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    Thanks Guys for all your very colorful and interesting point-of-views. It is appreciated.

    Gerry
     
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