Avet Light Setup - Yellowtail

AZ_Kota

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Hi Gang,

I am putting together a "light" set up for an upcoming fishing trip out of H&S on the Malihini.

I want to take two setups:

1) 40# mono Shimano TR-200G on a 7' Med/Hev Ugly Stik Tiger

2) 20# Mono, Avet SX5.0 on 7'6" Med Berkely Big Game

I would like some input on the 20# Mono set up. Is this Berkely Big Game enough rod for the YT that are being brought on board?

Thanks in advance,
Az_Kota
 
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Hi Gang,

I am putting together a "light" set up for an upcoming fishing trip out of H&S on the Malihini.

I want to take two setups:

1) 40# mono Shimano TR-200G on a 7' Med/Hev Ugly Stik Tiger

2) 20# Mono, Avet SX5.0 on 7'6" Med Berkely Big Game

I would like some input on the 20# Mono set up. Is this Berkely Big Game enough rod for the YT that are being brought on board?

Thanks in advance,
Az_Kota

I think it will handle it but I personally prefer a rod thats a bit heavier.

Assuming you will be fishing live bait on 20lb, yellows are known to be like pitbulls when they take off. I'd personally suggest like a Seeker Pinhead 15-30 or so since it has a soft tip which would match the reel perfectly. I have an MXJ on a Seeker Pinhead 8ft 15-40 which I use everything from 20-30 LB test and it handles yellows pretty well.

Just my 0.02
 
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    Are you sure you want to use your TR200-G as a 40# reel? I really wouldn't want to fish that reel with 10# or 13# of drag (a quarter and third of 40# breaking strength). I like that reel -- it is pretty popular for salon up here -- but really think it is, at best, a reel to fish with 30# line.
     
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    You should get on the classifieds and buy a used seeker/calstar/etc. Tons of them go for great prices every day and the fish don't know the difference.

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    tanner.s

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    I also have an Ugly Stik Tiger Lite that I use with an SX and I've killed a ton of yellows on it up to 35lbs. Love that rod and it was only 60 bucks. I use it for 30lb.

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    Ive got a few setups i use for yellowtail, but i target them with live bait, Ive got 3x SXJ 5.3's 1 with 20lb braid, 1 with 30lb braid, and 1 with 2kg mono (for records) Ive used longer rods seeker hercules, 7ft 15-30lb but fun it to long, so the 2 with braid I've got them matched with Jigstar ninja rods, 5ft rods. I find them to be the best for braid, biggest I've got so far is just over 50lb, This video is the SX 5.3 on a Jigstar ninja, to give you an idea of the action.
     
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    If it was me, I would swap the reels on your existing rods for the coming trip. The Avet will love the softer overall presentation of the Ugly Stick, and your Shimano on the Big Game will be as good as it can be for using a dropper loop setup.

    Yes, you should think about getting a better rod for your Avet. But for the coming trip on the Malahini, don't worry. Have a great time and post a report! Thanks for coming over from Arizona to help support California's fleet.
     
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    You might want to consider fishing 25lb test line on the Avet SX. The reel will handle up to 30lb test well. Typically, if fish will bite 20lb test they will bite 25lb. The pulling difference between 20lb and 25lb test feels huge. An additional benefit is the abrasion resistance of 25lb test.
     
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    You might want to consider fishing 25lb test line on the Avet SX. The reel will handle up to 30lb test well. Typically, if fish will bite 20lb test they will bite 25lb. The pulling difference between 20lb and 25lb test feels huge. An additional benefit is the abrasion resistance of 25lb test.

    Personally, I wouldn't push it past 25 lbs, if you want 30 lb upgrade towards MXJ or MXL. But he is right, the extra 5lb will give you a huge advantage

    From what I heard theres a chance to pop the bearing at 30lb drag settings on SX and knowing you are in AZ it would be a pain to get it repaired around there or to send it to AVET directly.

    Best option is 300 yards of 50lb braid, and 50 foot topshots of mono 25lb or 20lb.

    If you really want abrasion resistance, put 5-10 feet 25lb Seaguar Blue Label Fluorocarbon topshots and that will handle more abrasion resistance than any mono and is less visible in water. Just make sure your connection to the fluorocarbon is solid, the connection will break before the blue label fluro would.
     
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    The SX, MXJ, MXL all get the same drag so if capacity is fine fish the SX like you would a MXL. The MXJ is my favorite of the three. However, I hardly ever use the SX that I have spooled with a 20# topshot. The SX Raptor however is a great reel and I rarely leave home without it!
     
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    mcrae

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    Thanks Mark. I thought the SX and MX were identical in drag capabilities. However, I'm trying to be less argumentative....even on social media.
     
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    I have the SX raptor. In a pinch, it can be your 40 lb backup. Since tuna can show up with yt, I would go raptor. Why bring a knife to a gun fight when you can bring a gun?
     
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    The SX, MXJ, MXL all get the same drag so if capacity is fine fish the SX like you would a MXL. The MXJ is my favorite of the three. However, I hardly ever use the SX that I have spooled with a 20# topshot. The SX Raptor however is a great reel and I rarely leave home without it!

    Thanks Mark. I thought the SX and MX were identical in drag capabilities. However, I'm trying to be less argumentative....even on social media.

    Drag plates/ratings are the same, but the pinion bearing is what would go if you push it a bit too far on SX. AVET states SX is designed for 10-25lb while MXJ/MXL is 15-30lb.

    Not trying to argue, just don't want someone to have to replace a bearing if it can be avoided considering its happened to me :/
     
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    hucklongfin

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    So far as I can tell, the difference in rating is based on capacity, not capability. I like the MXJ because it's a little narrower than the SX but a little larger in diameter. For me, that's a better form factor.
     
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    I won't debate it further, there all great reels with different uses. But I agree, MXJ is by far my favorite. Get that in 2 speed and It can handle pretty much anything anywhere on the California coast.

    End result is for yellows, the SX will handle them well. I'd suggest putting 300 yards of 50lb braid and then topshots that way you can just switch the topshot and not all of the line. Will also work as kelp cutter rig should you need it
     
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    AZ_Kota

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    UPDATE: Wildcard....! My brother has a Phenix Black Diamond 7' 15~40lb rod that magically appeared, so I am going to be taking this rod instead of the Berkley Big Game. Now, I need to decide which reel I want to put on this one. The SX or the TR200G.

    What say you all?
     
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    UPDATE: Wildcard....! My brother has a Phenix Black Diamond 7' 15~40lb rod that magically appeared, so I am going to be taking this rod instead of the Berkley Big Game. Now, I need to decide which reel I want to put on this one. The SX or the TR200G.

    What say you all?

    SX. It has less drag rating but pound for pound fights like a pitbull. Considering yellows fight like pitbulls, fight fire with fire ;]
     
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    That rod is great for 25# so I'd go with the SX with a 25# leader over 50# spectra.Most 25# breaks around 40# so fish it with confidence.

    I have my MXJ w/25# on a Phenix 808mh rated 15-40.
     
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    avet sx is ok for fish up to 25lbs with 20# pline on top of 50# spectra. I would suggest and 8 ft pole 30#. I use the shimano tallus TLC80MBBL which is medium / fast 30-65. 8ft is needed to get over the front row, as well as cast your bait away from the boat, and it has great bend which makes less work for you. I have caught over 100YT+ on this set up, but I would say you can get spooled on that SX reel and would be a lot better off stepping up to a Avet MXL 6/4. 2nd gear is great when they go down deep. You can use this setup for YT, Yellow Fin, Dorado, Blue Fin, whatever you run into. I have been fishing it with 30# pline on 50 spectra and when its wide open you will land more fish that way because you will get them to the boat faster and be back in with fresh bait quicker. Throw 20lb, 25, 30 flouro onto if they fish are line shy.
     
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    Last trip to the Coronado's on the San Diego netted me 4 nice yellows. That being said I previously lost 3 on a earlier trip to seals while fishing 20lb. I brought the 20lb set up but opted to use my JX 2 speed with 30lb test and didn't lose a one second time around. Don't know if it made a difference or the bite just picked up, but after having caught only 1 yellow all morning I threw a top shot of 25lb floro on the 30lb and hooked 3 in the last 2 stops of the afternoon.

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