avet Jx or saltist LD 40?

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  1. steelfish

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    Im new to a lever drag reels and want to go with my first in the 40#/50# line test and at least 300yds 65# braid line and a short mono leader, after a lot of reading I think I have this two last contenders:

    AVET JX
    20#drag, 30/280 6.0 ratio, 23oz = $249

    SALTIST LD40
    22#drag, 30/270 6.3 ratio 22oz = $279 (with free braid line at charkbait)


    my fishing is 70% irons, jigs & trolling and 30% bait
    for heavy plastics and vertical jigs I also have a calcutta 400TE, now I looking for an open reel and I'd like to give a try to one of these level drags
     
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    Avet by a mile!
     
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    why?


    durability?
    cast alumn Vs billet alumn?
     
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    regardless,
    ld has the lighter spool, extreme freespool, stronger drag , lighter reel, better handle eronomics, no side load
    just flat out the better jigging reel regardless
    no contest
     
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    If you go and read Alan Tani's review of the Saltist, he infers that Daiwa was trying to copy Avet. Why get a copy when you can get the real thing. I love my Avets. A lot of bang for the buck.
     
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    i'm not inferring it is a well constructed or even a high quality reel
    but, for some reason, the recipe is right
    this thing just "works" great
     
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    I love my Avets too & would not sell them or swap them for an LD 2speed, they have there purpose. Ive spoken to Tani on a few occasions on this matter & Tani has changed his opinion on the comparision between the two reels & says the Diawa is a better reel..

    http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=660.0

    the sx binds up at 9 pounds of drag. the daiwa binds up at 12-14 pounds. it has a better drag range. it also casts better because the spool is lighter. that's pretty much it.
    alan
     
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    steelfish,

    It appears as though you have identified criteria that can be easily filled by a Baja Special, probably at less price. What you could do is buy a Baja Special, glue piece of plastic the shape of a lever on the right side of it giving it the appearance of a lever drag while letting the more than capable star do the real work. LOL

    Of course, I am just teasing. However, I do not quite understand why lever drags are all the rage on small reels. I love star drags because I can easily increase or decrease drag pressure w/o having to screw with a preset drag knob. But that's merely the way I roll. Your mileage may vary.

    I would consider a Baja Special for your application.


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    I own both and I like the Avet better. here are the pros and cons of both.

    JX:
    Pros - better construction, easier to self service and better scratch resistance.
    Cons - heavy spool(easy to get a birds nest).

    Saltist:
    Pros - better for casting.
    Cons - painted surface scratches very easily, harder to self service and internals corrodes a little easier.

    So, if I had to do it all over again, I would buy the JX with MC(MC is a must for casting jigs).
     
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    Tommy,

    actually Im fan of the star drags exactly for whay you said, increase and decrease drag pressure on the fly, I used to have a saltist 30TH (really nice reel) and actually I still have a saltist 20h for surf fishing chunk and inshore (all jigs, bait, plastics).

    you can bet that I'd like to have a Saltiga 40 over this two lever drag reels, but I cant affort $450 + dlls reel right now, so I think why not to give them a try.
    thousands people on each side for each reel cant be wrong, but I havent make my mind yet

    but thanks for the recomendation on the baja special actually is a nice reel and spoking of Alan Tani
     
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    Cons, can be easily solved with static mag or MC cast option, right?


    Cons- so, are talking of the new LD reel here? I really hated that saltist star drag paint, it scratches easiert than a lottery ticket, inside are still 10/10 but external normaly are 7.5/10
     
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    okuma cedros star drag
     
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    steelfish,

    No problem. I know that you can't go wrong with either of the reels you are considering.

    We have a couple Saltiga 50's. We bought 'em after our first Guadalupe trip. They are excellent reels, but I cannot honestly say they are better than the 3 Baja Specials we own. And the Baja Specials were a lot less expensive. Not to keep barking up the same tree, but I have yet to run into a better bargain than Baja Special. It is a reel that will land 'lupe YFT with ease!

    I used to own a Saltist 40. It was a good reel, but that damned funky reel clamp used to drive me up a friggin' wall! So I sold it. But it was an excellent reel for albies and 'tail. I never caught a YFT with it. I think that would be a suitable test for it and any reel, how it does under strain of a 70# YFT.


    Adios Mi Amigo,

    Tommy
     
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    you're dreamin
    big ol clunky heavy baja specials
    have at it bro
    save a buck
     
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    Big? no
    Heavy? no put it on a scale
    Clunky? smooth as babies ass
    easy to service, disengaging pinion, tons of drag, adjustable drag (vera drag) no it doesn't have the Avet bling but it works a hell of lot better. For that matter so do my ProGears. The 3 Avet reels I have had HX, JX/LX were some of the poorest built reels I have every owned. Poor craftsmanship, loose tolerances, crappy drags, cheap bearings, oh lets not forget the binding. I bought those reels 3 years ago sold the last one a month ago. Maybe it's because I had the older ones, but I'll never own another one. If not the Baja by a used Saltiga 20 or 30T. A good used ProGear, or a new one from Ken's.
     
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    you like the heavy shttt Gene :)
    amen to progear, saltiga, trini dc, even giving the okuma cedros star a look,
    but,
    i played around with the BS, not liking going back in time
     
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    Baja Special was 199.95 at charkbait some days ago but BUM!! suddenly today they appeared $219.95

    while avets are reducing their prices by 15% this penn baja Special got increased by 10%
     
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    Not to add more disorder but I noticed you wrote that you primarily fish jigs. Isn't a 6:1 ratio reel a pain once you hook up. Are you not going to consider a 2 speed reel?
     
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    OK, I`ll admit, I don`t have any experience with this model JX. Mine is the first JX (4.1:1 ratio) and it has been a durable, reliable reel for 4 years now.
    I use 50pound braid on it , have greased the drag, get good free spool at a max drag of 24pounds.
    From what I have read on the Daiwa, I think any Avet would be working for longer.
     
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    Having said that, my pic would also be a star drag reel.
    The tld Star 20/40 with carbontex drag and a longer handle.
    5:1 hardened SS gears and no flimsy one way roller bearings.
     

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