You do, even if you don’t think so. The HX and HXW Raptor is a 60-100lb reel And the fish you’re going to be pulling need the capacity, without a doubt. What’s the reason of having a beefed up reel if you’re never going to fish it to the heavier duties it was meant for. It’s like building out a 72 gto only to put 180mm tires on it
I just got a 250 on a flatfall deep, maybe 350 feet, while the jig was stopped, tangled with the guy next to me, bit during the untangling.. Got it on Avet 30 with 100 lb mono to 100lb braid and a 1x3 and pulled as hard as ever. Mean fish. I wouldn't fish anything less than HX-W Rapt. I think you need the extra capacity for some 100lb mono. The good thing is the HXW Rapt has a higher drag potential than the 30/2 I used (50lb vs 40lb). Make sure to set a high drag at strike (30lb) but dont go all the way to strike until later in the battle. Good luck!
Exactly, you would be lucky to land a cow on the HXWr let alone a super ... Your best bet is a Makaira 20sea or VISX 20 on a 76 Viper or on a budget Okuma PCH 3x.I’m not specifically targeting 300 pounders but how it’s been you don’t know if it’s gonna be 80 or 380
Good luck it’s been a crazy weekI absolutely love my HXWR 3-speed for cranking on flat falls at depth. The 47 inches of retrieve make it a breeze.
Both myself and my brother have one and they have handled 100-200 bluefin easy. Hoping to test it on cows this Saturday. They are both on HAX760X3H, more worried about the rod than that reel.
Short answer, yes, you at least need an 100lb outfit with a max drag of at least 40lb.Been watching this and similar posts regarding renting / buying "big" blue fin gear (my heaviest set up is a Metalloid 12 on 6470 that I use for 50#).
From what I've gathered the only difference between all these reels is line capacity - essentially the same reel but just holds more line.
Is there any need for 80# 100# and 130# set ups? If the chance of me hooking a cow is there why would I buy / bring an 80# reel and not the 130# reel.
At this level (and price) where (what size) is the best place to start?
I checked my Avet 30/2 vs HXW raptor and it wasn't close. The max drag I got on the 30 was 35lb but no Freespool. On the HXWR, I got 50+ and still Freespool. Bottom line, HXWR with 100lb is way to go.Avet 30 will serve your needs much better than the raptors. Bulletproof. I own an avet HX raptor and it is not as good as the avet 30 ex for these fish.
you fish that much drag on a medium frame reel there is a big chance of a failure, that's pushing the limits. The exw can fish higher drag with ease, the hxwr is a good reel, but it's still medium frame so you can't use it as hard as a heavy. I had a HXWr for a while, nice reels but I upgraded to a Mak 20sea.I checked my Avet 30/2 vs HXW raptor and it wasn't close. The max drag I got on the 30 was 35lb but no Freespool. On the HXWR, I got 50+ and still Freespool. Bottom line, HXWR with 100lb is way to go.
More drag, less strong reel. The clicker will stick on the HX, and I've seen them freeze up on bigger fish (only once, saw a makaira 15 do it too). But the people I know that have HXW and normal cow reels definitely favor the cow reels. I rarely have trouble with the Avet ex pro reels and I have 4 of them that I fish regularly, 2 30 and 2 30w. I also have an HX, HXJ raptor and a HX raptor. I've had 2 of those that needed service for drag issues. I do love the raptor reels, but they still are a little temperamental. I've had my sx raptor since it they came out, but I've had the bearings changed twice. I have 2 JX raptors, and one I put through a 4 hour heavyweight fight and it worked flawlessly. All that said, the 30 ex is the most dependable and best value to strength ratio.I checked my Avet 30/2 vs HXW raptor and it wasn't close. The max drag I got on the 30 was 35lb but no Freespool. On the HXWR, I got 50+ and still Freespool. Bottom line, HXWR with 100lb is way to go.
That's not the problem, sure the drag on the HXWr is incredibly high, I remember testing mine and getting 39lbs at strike. The problem with useing over 25lbs on that reel is, it's medium frame... It's ganna heat up, a LOT. If your fishing over 30lbs of drag on an hxw raptor and that fish is pissed taking over 300yrds in that first run, the reel will reach like 200 degrees and you won't even be able to touch that drag. The hxw raptors are nice 100lb reels and there is a nice chance of landing a cow but if you fish it like a heavy frame reel, it's not ganna hold up...So here's my issue with the 30. I got a 260 bft on one last week which is obviously awesome. Bu I was having a hard time up and down maxing out the drag. When I got back home I tested it and it maxed at 30 lb as I said, and that's with no Freespool. I've also caught cows on my avet50. So not sure why the drag is so limited on the 30. Again, not so on the HXWR.