Assist hook directly to jig, or ring?

[jjdbike]

Hey folks,
I’m rigging my new knife jigs, streakers & rip rollers.I’ve got Mustad 6/0& 7/0.
I’m putting 2 on the bottom only. I’m using assists instead of treble because of less leverage fish can apply. Also, I’m guessing / hoping they will have less of a chance of tangling.
That being said, I simply looped assist cord around bottom of jigs. See pic below. Is this sufficient or is there a good reason to put a ring or two (i.e., split or split & solid) between assist hooks cords & jigs?
Thanks in advance!
JD

 

[Desert fishing]

No ring in this case one less potential fail point.

 

[jjdbike]

No ring in this case one less potential fail point.

Cool thanks!
So you’re saying no ring is fine.
That’s what Ken from Ken’s Custom Reels said. In my mind the perfect scenario would be a braised solid ring, but I don’t have the right size rings.
JD

 

[Jibber805]

Looks good to me too. Don’t overthink it. But hey, don’t forget to mark your line!

 

[durtyfeesh]

I like using a ring with an hook attac “owner ultra 9 or 10”. Make changing out jigs quick
your set up also works good 👍🏽

 

[hucklongfin]

That style hook is attached as you did it. Lots of assist hooks have a ring at the top so you attach them with a split ring.

 

[kzaam1]

That style hook is attached as you did it. Lots of assist hooks have a ring at the top so you attach them with a split ring.

These assist hooks with metal rings are better I think. I would much prefer to have metal pivoting against metal rather than to have line tightly cinched up and twisting around thin metal. Seems like I've seen much more line failures happen that way. Same concept applies to how these assist hooks are connected to the jig.

 

[hucklongfin]

These assist hooks with metal rings are better I think. I would much prefer to have metal pivoting against metal rather than to have line tightly cinched up and twisting around thin metal. Seems like I've seen much more line failures happen that way. Same concept applies to how these assist hooks are connected to the jig.

Yes. I prefer a treble at the bottom and the assists at the top. Attach them to a solid ring and attach to the split ring at the top.

 

[holdmyb33r2020]

Hey folks,
I’m rigging my new knife jigs, streakers & rip rollers.I’ve got Mustad 6/0& 7/0.
I’m putting 2 on the bottom only. I’m using assists instead of treble because of less leverage fish can apply. Also, I’m guessing / hoping they will have less of a chance of tangling.
That being said, I simply looped assist cord around bottom of jigs. See pic below. Is this sufficient or is there a good reason to put a ring or two (i.e., split or split & solid) between assist hooks cords & jigs?
Thanks in advance!
JD

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Yes, what you have is fine and simple. I've done that way and landed tunas with no issues. I also use split rings but, pretty much use whatever I have available at the time.

 

[thorin1488]

I like using a ring with an hook attac “owner ultra 9 or 10”. Make changing out jigs quick
your set up also works good 👍🏽

same here i like the #9 or #10 owner split rings

 

[Desert fishing]

These assist hooks with metal rings are better I think. I would much prefer to have metal pivoting against metal rather than to have line tightly cinched up and twisting around thin metal. Seems like I've seen much more line failures happen that way. Same concept applies to how these assist hooks are connected to the jig.

Would you not still have metal to line in there some place. I guess I am miss understanding something

 

[thorin1488]

Would you not still have metal to line in there some place. I guess I am miss understanding something

yes but with a split ring your assist hook line will tighten around the split ring and the split ring will do most of the moving around and rubbing metal to metal . with the split ring free to move the assist hook line won’t move or rub much.

 

[thorin1488]

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[Desert fishing]

OK now I understand what you are saying.

 

[thorin1488]

 

[kzaam1]

Would you not still have metal to line in there some place. I guess I am miss understanding something

A lot of those jig eyes, both top and bottom, are kind of thin and somewhat sharp.

I always add a split ring to the eye of any jig when tying it on with fluoro.

Same thing with those assist hooks. I just think it's better for any kind of line to swing freely on a split ring or solid ring instead of rubbing tightly against thin metal that might eventually fray or cut the line.

 

[jjdbike]

Th

same here i like the #9 or #10 owner split rings

yes but with a split ring your assist hook line will tighten around the split ring and the split ring will do most of the moving around and rubbing metal to metal . with the split ring free to move the assist hook line won’t move or rub much.

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A lot of those jig eyes, both top and bottom, are kind of thin and somewhat sharp.

I always add a split ring to the eye of any jig when tying it on with fluoro.

Same thing with those assist hooks. I just think it's better for any kind of line to swing freely on a split ring or solid ring instead of rubbing tightly against thin metal that might eventually fray or cut the line.

Thanks everyone.
You’ve convinced me. I’m going to inloop them and connect them w/ spilt ring.
Tight lines!
JD

 

[kzaam1]

Th

Thanks everyone.
You’ve convinced me. I’m going to inloop them and connect them w/ spilt ring.
Tight lines!
JD

Not really sure that’s a good idea. It’s possible those assist hooks will slide into the recess and slide out of the split ring. Or get cut by the sharp edges of the ring.

I think you’re better off leaving those assist hooks the way they’re set up. Or braze a solid ring to the jig eye and attach the assist hooks to that

 

[TOTW]

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The ol’ leg snagger method of securing jigs!

 

[jose caballero]

I'm joining late but I mostly agree with hucklongfin above, and also, thorin's take on kevlar-rings.

when I fish at night, I'm normally using a bite leader and longer jigs (400-500gr jigs on 200-300# bite leader tied with a heavy swivel to 80-130# main line, maybe 90% of my nights in the last three years). I usually have a figure 8 with longer kevlar on the hooks, and the jig attached via split ring. making my own assists lets me tune the lengths so the hooks are in the "top third" and "middle" locations, roughly; keeping the jig on a split ring lets me change the lure without tying knots. I used mostly mustad hoodlums in the past, switching more to owner offshores cuz I like their offset.



on those bigger jigs, I prefer a treble on the bottom, cuz if they gulp it, they bleed a lot. maybe I need to reconsider (I've lost two fish since adding trebles), but I've also seen a LOT of blood in the water and landed some fish that were HOOKED, so I'm still leaning toward benefit. I attach this with a split ring, obviously. in a pinch, I've also used a bigger j-hook on a split ring at the bottom (caught really well with those on multiple occasions).



on smaller jigs, like daytime or the recent "smaller BFT on 60#" night fishing, I prefer two assist hooks on a solid ring (I build my own, so I actually create a hollow loop in the kevlar which includes the ring, then tie the hook onto that), connected by a split ring. it's a lot of jewelry, but you get tons of mobility, without stressing the kevlar/jig eye (beyond the fish load). When I tie direct (as in 150-250gr SK's on 50-60#, tied to the top of the jig), I will normally just use the two shorter assists on the bottom. I don't like to have top hooks tangling with my mainline.



most specifically to the original questions, I put ALL my assists on a ring. solid ring or figure 8.

 

[Moseley]

Cool thanks!
So you’re saying no ring is fine.
That’s what Ken from Ken’s Custom Reels said. In my mind the perfect scenario would be a braised solid ring, but I don’t have the right size rings.
JD

I had a couple jigs rigged at Ken’s and they did the same thing (no ring).

 

[gouryella]

Assist hooks on solids to split rings on the bottom.

 

[jjdbike]

I’m thinking the ultimate connection would be assist hook line looped around a braised solid ring on bottom of jig.
JD

 

[kzaam1]

Or just buy some assist hooks with metal rings and use a split ring to connect them.