Areas 7, 9 taking it in the shorts

Tish

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Grant
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2011 Pursuit 315 OS
A 3 day Chinook season... cripes.


WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
1111 Washington St. SE, Olympia, WA 98501
wdfw.wa.gov


April 12, 2022
Contact:
Fish Program, 360-902-2700
Public Affairs contact: Ben Anderson, 360-902-0045
Washington salmon seasons tentatively set for 2022-23

OLYMPIA – Anglers in Washington can expect similar salmon fishing opportunities this year compared to 2021, with some improved opportunities in the ocean driven by strong expected coho returns, state fishery managers have announced.

The 2022-23 salmon fishing seasons, cooperatively developed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) and treaty tribal co-managers, were tentatively set Tuesday afternoon at a week-long Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC) meeting held online and in-person in Seattle.

“We continue to see low returns of some stocks across Washington, especially Chinook stocks, and our first priority is to craft fisheries that conserve and aid recovery of those runs,” said WDFW Director Kelly Susewind. “At the same time, there are bright spots in this year’s forecast, and we developed what we believe are some novel ways to maximize opportunities in areas where healthy runs might mingle with those weaker stocks.”

Negotiations between WDFW and co-managers this year were guided in part by a new Puget Sound Harvest Management Plan that has been submitted to federal regulators and is expected to provide long-term fishery guidance for Puget Sound if approved.

"Now that we've met the challenge of providing harvest opportunities, the co-managers need to get back to the work of recovering salmon," said Shawn Yanity, vice chair of the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission. "Protecting treaty rights is not about fighting over the last fish. It’s about salmon recovery in the long term."

Season recommendations now move forward for approval by the National Marine Fisheries Service and final rulemaking, including additional opportunity for public comment and consideration of those comments.

Puget Sound

Low returns of Stillaguamish Chinook are expected to continue affecting fisheries across Puget Sound. Stillaguamish and Snohomish Chinook returns will especially impact fishing in the San Juan Islands (Marine Area 7) and Admiralty Inlet (Marine Area 9). Managers have proposed a three-day hatchery Chinook and coho fishery from July 14-16 in those areas, followed by a coho-directed fishery starting Aug. 16.

“Strong catch rates and fishing pressure led to some early closures in these areas last year, and we wanted to make sure we do not exceed our catch allocations in 2022,” said Kyle Adicks, intergovernmental salmon manager with WDFW. “We heard from many anglers that they wanted an opportunity to fish in July in these areas, and this offers some opportunity while still hopefully preserving the chance to fish on what’s expected to be a solid coho run later in the summer.”

Winter Chinook fisheries will again be limited in Puget Sound in 2022-23, with some Chinook retention opportunity available in November and December in Marine Area 11 (Tacoma-Vashon Island), February and March in Marine Area 10 (Seattle-Bremerton), and March and April in Marine Area 5 (Sekiu).

Most Puget Sound marine areas will once again open for the summer season beginning in July or August, with June openers currently planned for Marine Areas 10 and 11.
 
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Wild Bill

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Aug 4, 2010
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Steve
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Otter Craft
At the center of this puget sound crisis is a dirty little secret about the Stillaguamish. Due to severe degradation of spawning habitat, it will not be recoverable in our lifetime and probably our kids lifetime or longer. It has a carrying capacity of only several hundred chinook in it’s current state. Despite these facts I believe it is being used to hold us over the barrel to give us a good ol’ rogering on many ps opportunities. I have yet to hear the tribes plan to recover this spawning habitat or spend any meaningful funds to address the real problem. It doesn’t matter how much more estuary habitat you add, It will not help the Stilly. Using it for a pawn instead of trying to find a real solution? You be the judge.
 
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MA9

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BW
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Terrible AM tides for A9 those 3 days, (although decent PM) and what a cluster that’s going to be.
Wasn’t there an August start date proposed for A9 with a decent quota? What happened with that?
 
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t_dub

I remember when I used to fish.............
Jan 3, 2010
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Ty
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20' Hewescraft Searunner
3 days this year with I'm sure another dismal Stilly return so prepare for zero days next year.
 
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Woodfighter

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It was presented as 3 days per week in hopes the quota would last longer, not just 3 days only!!!! :(
2021 - 7 days
2022 - 3 days
2023 - 4 hours?
 
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dirtybird69

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Apr 29, 2010
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Lyman WA
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Rodney
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alumaweld pacific on order 25
Hopefully Fish North west will do something about this. We had a very viable winter fishery here and a great summer fishery. The fish are still in the San Juan’s in great numbers. With these new small next to non existent opening’s it only puts 10 times the pressure on an area weather it’s area 5,7,or 9.
 
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kwik_wurk

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kwik_wurk
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Tides are awful, -3.9ish on Thurs (14th) @ 11:30AM (depending where you are…)

How many ramps/docks/etc are not going be functional at that time.

Would suggest they push it back a week.
 
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linestripper

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howard
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19' seaswirl- linestripper
wdfw does that on purpose. give you days you cant fish, crab, shrimp ect.
 
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Having been on the Recreational Crab and Shrimp Advisory Group I can personally tell you that WDFW does consider tides when looking at openers. Crab? Shouldn't be an issue given the number of days per week when seasons are open.
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Polarbill1999

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Holy smokes, just looked up the tides at possession.

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EJ Swanny

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Erik
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Yep, shit shows per year, not free either. WTF did you expect?? The tides won't only screw up ramps.......it will be bumper boats out there during slack. Every boat will time the slack and jockey for only the best ledges, holes in the area. It will be COMBAT fishing out there. Fish will get cut off by others, tempers will flair. Bravo WDFW, you out did yourself this season. Most will regret they ever went, congrats.....
 
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FHisherman

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Parker
If ya haven't noticed the treaty tribes now control WDFW. Until that changes, nothing will change and no use bitching about it. Obviously for salmon seasons as well. If a grass roots group like Fish NW get enough money to hire council to try to enforce Boldt and pursue an independent ESA permit to fish and we get behind them we may have a chance.
 
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EJ Swanny

Three Generations of Uff-Dah
Nov 30, 2010
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Erik
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If ya haven't noticed the treaty tribes now control WDFW. Until that changes, nothing will change and no use bitching about it. Obviously for salmon seasons as well. If a grass roots group like Fish NW get enough money to hire council to try to enforce Boldt and pursue an independent ESA permit to fish and we get behind them we may have a chance.
That is one our the biggest problems, if WE can all get behind ONE group, maybe we can make a dent. Everyone seems to have their own "groups" and none of these seem to be working together with ONE agenda. If we can all unite these different causes, into one common cause, maybe we can have the masses to move the needle. Currently it's alot of BB's shooting at a tank. They have all the firepower "$$$$$$$$$". We have no chance.....firepower is the only way...we have ZERO. Unless we Unite, but that will never happen........too many agendas on our side...........we need a "George Washington"
 
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PSULion

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Barry
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13' Gregor
I wish there was ONE group that would finally just file a lawsuit to challenge the status quo and inequity of our fisheries. Oh well.
 
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Alysium

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Nate
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Op220
If you know of a group trying to reestablish salmon/steelhead above the dams let me know. The dams have only been there for ~ 80 years. They still haven’t figured out a way to get fish past them. At least…the tribes are trying…
 
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Eric
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23 north river seahawk
If you know of a group trying to reestablish salmon/steelhead above the dams let me know. The dams have only been there for ~ 80 years. They still haven’t figured out a way to get fish past them. At least…the tribes are trying…
Well thank god for the tribes……
 
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