Any one have an Avet JX 6.0?

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    Went into Turners on Saturday after work and picked up a reel after discussing my needs for a 50-60# class reel for 1.5-3 days with the tackle salesman. An avet JX 6.0. The salesman stated the drag was 21/28 how ever when I got home I realized those numbers were the drag ratings on the g2 and this reel is probably not suited for the line class I wanted to fish with it since the actual drag ratings are 15/20.

    Any one fished a Gen 1 that heavy before?
     
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    Went into Turners on Saturday after work and picked up a reel after discussing my needs for a 50-60# class reel for 1.5-3 days with the tackle salesman. An avet JX 6.0. The salesman stated the drag was 21/28 how ever when I got home I realized those numbers were the drag ratings on the g2 and this reel is probably not suited for the line class I wanted to fish with it since the actual drag ratings are 15/20.

    Any one fished a Gen 1 that heavy before?

    For 50lb he should have recommended the JX Raptor.
     

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    I fish the JX g2 on a 801h Black Diamond ( sweet set up )with 65lb braid which I fished all last year and best fish was a 80lb BFT with a 30lb leader over at Tanner I had plenty of drag for him. The G2 JX hold less line then the regular JX which sucks but there almost 400 yds of 65lb and I could run 50lb but I don't But I fish it with a 30 -40lb leader , I had a long soak going when I hooked the fish he had me down to maybe 100 -125 yrds on the reel at one point and once I turn him I got most of it back and then it was just 50 yrd battle for a while never felt under gunned. I also nailed over 5 - 30+pound yellows over a SB and SCI which that reel smashed. Prior to that I was fishing reg LX set up and yes the drag is a little soft, You can get the G2 set up from Tackle direct on sale for 285 with no MC ( reels are set nice with out ) The Raptor has to much drag for that set up if you ask me the line capacity is not up to par for 40lb drag 2 speed. I fish a 40nld penn fathom with 550 yrds of 80lb for the price of 245 that the way to go if you ask me instead of a Raptor unless you got some good funds to spend...
     
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    I fish the JX g2 with 65lb braid which I fished all last year and best fish was a 80lb BFT with a 30lb leader over at Tanner I had plenty of drag for him. The G2 JX hold less line then the regular JX which sucks but there almost 400 yds of 65lb and I could run 50lb but I don't I had a long soak going when I hooked the fish he had me down to maybe 100yrds on the reel at one point and once I turn him I got most of it back and then it was just 50 yrd battle for a while never felt under gunned. I also nailed over 5 - 30+pound yellows over a SB and SCI which that reel smashed. Prior to that I was fishing reg LX set up and yes the drag is a little soft, You can get the G2 set up from Tackle direct on sale for 285 with no MC which I fell is not needed if your average at casting. The Raptor has to much drag for that set up if you ask me the line capacity is not up to par for 40lb drag 2 speed. I fish a 40nld penn fathom with 550 yrds of 80lb for the price of 245 that the way to go if you ask me instead of a Raptor unless you got some good funds to spend...
    Thanks for the input. I think the G2 6/3 is ideal for my needs. It was a bit of an impulse buy as I initially went in for some irons for an upcoming catalina trip, and so I didnt do any prior research and took the salesmans word for the specs (not his fault, Avet really should put specs on the box). The 40NLD2 is actually my first choice for that class of reel but they were out of stock. I am going to bite the bullet and take the JX back and see if they have something more powerful in a similar size. I filled it with 80# powerpro and I dont want to have to buy that again so if i can put it on the new reel that'd be a bonus.
     

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    Thanks for the input. I think the G2 6/3 is ideal for my needs. It was a bit of an impulse buy as I initially went in for some irons for an upcoming catalina trip, and so I didnt do any prior research and took the salesmans word for the specs (not his fault, Avet really should put specs on the box). The 40NLD2 is actually my first choice for that class of reel but they were out of stock. I am going to bite the bullet and take the JX back and see if they have something more powerful in a similar size. I filled it with 80# powerpro and I dont want to have to buy that again so if i can put it on the new reel that'd be a bonus.
    Yea I ran 80 for 1 trip on the jx it over kill but the G2 with 50 or 65 braid is sweet perfect 30 -40 lb leader. Walmart has the Penn 60 and the 40 fathoms 2 speeds for $245 plus 11.95 shipping and ebay has them for $250 free shipping - you just cant beat the price on those for a 2 speed with 40lb of drag...
     
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    Yea I ran 80 for 1 trip on the jx it over kill but the G2 with 50 or 65 braid is sweet I fish it on a 801h phoenix Black diamond and that a sweet combo, Walmart got the Penn 60 and the 40 fathoms for $245 plus 11.95 shipping and ebay has them for $250 free shipping fyi you just cant beat the price on those for a 2 speed with 40lb of drag...
    Yea man those are killer prices for those reels. I have the JX on a graftech GOF78XH (7' 8" 50-60#), was considering putting it on a shorter 7' rod if I want to fish 60. Sounds like your 8' doesn't give you any issues with those bigger fish so maybe ill just get an updated reel and leave the rod as is.
     

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    Which one? Too many....
    Any one fished a Gen 1 that heavy before?
    Nope. I have 4 different gen 1 JX / LX and they will not operate anywhere near the mfr drag specs. If you attempt to do that, freespool is lost and you crush bearings. I learned that the hard way. I won't run mine over 10 lbs drag.
     
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    Any one fished a Gen 1 that heavy before?
    Yes, use regular JX for 40 and 50lb all the time. I have 4.7:1 and 6:1 reels.

    The Raptor is more capable.

    If you want to use the single speed, you should pick the right gear ratio for application.
     
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    Yes, use regular JX for 40 and 50lb all the time. I have 4.7:1 and 6:1 reels.

    The Raptor is more capable.

    If you want to use the single speed, you should pick the right gear ratio for application.
    I have a couple of 40# set ups that I can push to 50 if needed (penn 25LD2 speed on a PCH 30-60 and a Seigler SG on a Calstar 700M, Penn 25N on a G6480H), I was looking for a 60# set up and just got the wrong gear. No big deal. I will have to take it back tomorrow and get the right stuff.
     
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    Personally, I wouldn't consider a gen 1, especially if you're looking to push it. A G2 is what the G1 should've been from the beginning. Skip lunch a few times and put the money towards the Raptor so that there'll be no doubts or regrets! Buy once, cry once, catch fish!

    I fish my Gen 1's within their limits. I use my sxj for 20#, mxj for 25# and the jx 6/3 for 40#.
     
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    I bet he pushed that 1st gen on you because they are clearing them out. Sold all my 1st generation avet reels and only picked up a sxj g2 for 15-30lb work. The second gens are a straight upgrade.
     
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    I bet he pushed that 1st gen on you because they are clearing them out. Sold all my 1st generation avet reels and only picked up a sxj g2 for 15-30lb work. The second gens are a straight upgrade.
    I dont think he pushed it on me, I genuinely just think he didnt know the drag specs cause he googled them when I asked him what they were. Its not hard to get mixed up when you are looking at avet for the specs. I called the store and im just gonna return the JX as sexy as it is and replace it with a fathom 40NLD2 for a few bucks more.

    The only Avet I have now is an MXJ MC I use to sling a jig for 30# work, but I do like Avets reels and I would like raptor but the penn is damned near half the price (and I like my penn reels too). I think Avet does the best job with machining and finish of the 3 made in America manufacturers (Avet, Accurate, Seigler). I have reels from all three and the avets look the best as far as tooling marks and machining marks on the reels go, and I like the egg handle more than the accurate ball knob and that wierd Seigler knob.
     
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    I have 7 avet reels and am happy with them, raptors, gen 2 and gen 1. As for drag, multiply the drag by about 2 to 3 and that is the force that you need to lift the rod with your arms on the foregrip. How long do you think you can lift 60 lbs with a 20 lb drag? And that is the drag when the spool is full. When it is near the bottom, the drag may double. In reality, you are probably fishing a much lighter drag unless you are pointing the rod at the fish.
     
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    I have 7 avet reels and am happy with them, raptors, gen 2 and gen 1. As for drag, multiply the drag by about 2 to 3 and that is the force that you need to lift the rod with your arms on the foregrip. How long do you think you can lift 60 lbs with a 20 lb drag? And that is the drag when the spool is full. When it is near the bottom, the drag may double. In reality, you are probably fishing a much lighter drag unless you are pointing the rod at the fish.

    At 20 lbs of drag and up, in most cases you're no longer pulling up on the rod. You're laying the rod on the rail and pushing down on the rod butt with your body weight. You can put a lot of leverage on a fish that way letting the rod do the work, so that's when you need the reel that can maintain smooth heavy drag.

    To @SoCalEDC, good call on the FTH40NLD2 for a reel at the same price as the JX 6.0. That's my 50-60 lb reel and I like it a lot. Super smooth and shifts easy, but you already know this since you've got the 25NLD2. My 80-100 lb reel is an Alantani-ed Avet EXW 4/02 to get 35 lbs of drag at strike.
     
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    I hear you on "riding the rod". I am not sure you would be doing that with a JX and a "longer rod". My gunwales are too low for that. I fish 65 braid on my jx with a 30-40 lb fluro topshot. The drag would be set at 1/3 the topshot strength, which would be 10-13 lb.
     
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    I hear you on "riding the rod". I am not sure you would be doing that with a JX and a "longer rod". My gunwales are too low for that. I fish 65 braid on my jx with a 30-40 lb fluro topshot. The drag would be set at 1/3 the topshot strength, which would be 10-13 lb.
    Glad I read this, I have a Jx 2spd, good info on the line, top shot, and drag setting.

    Thank you.
     
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    I have 7 avet reels and am happy with them, raptors, gen 2 and gen 1. As for drag, multiply the drag by about 2 to 3 and that is the force that you need to lift the rod with your arms on the foregrip. How long do you think you can lift 60 lbs with a 20 lb drag? And that is the drag when the spool is full. When it is near the bottom, the drag may double. In reality, you are probably fishing a much lighter drag unless you are pointing the rod at the fish.
    Thanks for the advice. I definitely know what you are saying and I'm sure the 15# on the jx is enough but it's really "redlining" the reel to fish it like that. I generally check my drag coming off the reel with a spring scale, but yes when the diameter of the spool is halved the drag in increased as it's now a shorter lever arm to pull from.
     
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    I love my JX6.0 as a 50# wahoo bomb reel - however, after frying the pinion bearing with too stiff of a drag setting, I'm swapping it out for a G2. There are better options out there for a 40# bait reel, and 50# is just too much for the (non-Raptor) JX. The 4.8 JX worked well for years as a yo-yo reel, but I've also replaced it with one of the limited release 4.2 ratio HXJ's.

    The first gen Avet's are among the most reliable and easiest lever drag reels to service, and last a lifetime if you fish them within their design limitations. Nowadays, everybody tries to get higher drag settings out of smaller reels, which often exceeds the Gen 1 capabilities...

    If I were considering an Avet single speed today, I wouldn't look at anything but the Gen 2's - well worth the extra few $$$'s IMO. And if you needed 2-speed, step up to the Raptor...
     
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    I fish the SX 5.3/1 for 30/40 lb, the G2 or raptor would have been a better choice but you can out a lot of line on the JX so it might be up to the task, only limit is single speed and drag
     
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    HX for 50/60? Are you talking the single speed? I had thought that the Raptor or even 5/2 version was an 80/100 lb reel?
    I use the JX 6/3 for 40#, JX Raptor for 50#, HX Raptor for yoyo with 60# and HXW Raptor for 100#. The regular HX 5/2 isn't an 80-100# reel, the Raptor is pretty much what you want it to be provided the capacity will meet your needs. I have 500 yds of 80# spectra on the HX Raptor with a 60# topshot.
     
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