Andros reel clamps too big.

ChuyG

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I have two new Andros reels - a 12NS and a 5iia. The 12 narrow I have on a cape cod slow pitch rod with a reel seat. When the clamp was too loose I just used a piece of thick rubber to fill in the gap for a tight fit. The rod is really light/thin so I didn't think much of it. However, I just tried to put the 5iia on a seeker deckhand rod (cork tape) and I couldn't get it tight. Anyone else having a problem? Feeling like a dumbass! Lol!

Fwiw, I've had no problems with my two makairas.
 

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Are you leaving the keeper nuts on the studs? I've had to remove them and trim the studs down for all my cork puppies to get them good and snug. It's more difficult to get them set up initially, but if you get it all started first, and then slip the studs in the reel, you can use the weight of the reel hanging from below to get it tight. Then you can adjust as needed once they aren't too loose to slip out.
 
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ChuyG

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I didn't think they were removable. I just looked again and they look like one piece, but maybe it's just the finish. But even so, it shouldn't be this complicated. Think some washers on the outside of the clamp would work?
 

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My apologies. I assumed they were like most other reels in having a carriage bolt that fits into a slot with a keeper nut. I personally own Penn Fathoms and Diawas and that's how they both are set up. I was just trying to help. I'm sure the washers will work, but in your case, a small section of shrink wrap to build the area up would be cleaner and nicer in hand.
 
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I've had this on several of my outfits. I bought some cork coasters and cut small squares that fit under my rod clamp, and I've been happy with how they worked out.
 
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I'm actually replacing a saltist 20 with the andros. My son is getting the saltist. I'll post some pics of my dilemma in a few.
 

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I've had this on several of my outfits. I bought some cork coasters and cut small squares that fit under my rod clamp, and I've been happy with how they worked out.
I was thinking of trying some sticky sided felt strips that Ive used to protect my floors from chairs. I like the cork idea, tho.
 

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I see the issue. They look like screw in studs from this pic I found on the web. You would have to trim the female and male parts down to tighten it up like I had done on my reels. How steady handed are you with a dremmel cut off wheel? Lol
 
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View attachment 826084 I see the issue. They look like screw in studs from this pic I found on the web. You would have to trim the female and male parts down to tighten it up like I had done on my reels. How steady handed are you with a dremmel cut off wheel? Lol
Lol! I'll hold off on any cutting for now!
 

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I actually think that I'd just have to cut down the bolts tightening the clamp. They bottom out on the bolt at the bottom.

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I don't blame you one bit. I am used to fabricating brand new stuff to make it work correct. The first time I cut into a brand spanking new shiny part for my old Mustang I was terrified. Just use the shrink wrap. It's clean, effective, adds grip, and protects the cork from getting dented too bad.
 
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Nope. That won't work. The posts don't pass through the tightening bolts.
 

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The studs wind up sticking out proud of slots to tighten it usually. If you do it, make sure you take your time. Good luck Jesus.
 
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I don't blame you one bit. I am used to fabricating brand new stuff to make it work correct. The first time I cut into a brand spanking new shiny part for my old Mustang I was terrified. Just use the shrink wrap. It's clean, effective, adds grip, and protects the cork from getting dented too bad.
Where can I buy shrink wrap? Is it a Home Depot item? Now I've got to look up some YouTube videos!

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Do a search on the rod building forums and I'm sure there will be several options to purchase online.
 
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The cap nuts come in 3 different lengths to accommodate such problems. Call Ron or Eddie, explain the situation, I'm sure it can be remedied. Don't cut the studs off.
 
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Mark how much you want to cut the thread down with a marker. Find a nut that fits the threads and thread it down into the stud. Use a dremel metal cutoff disk to trim the threads and grind/file off any burrs. Remove the nut to clean out the last few threads and you are set.

Its pretty easy to shorten the threads slightly. If you have a grinder you can use that too, but it might take longer and heats up the metal. I always put in a nut in case the last few threads get damaged. Once you remove the nut, it reshapes the thread like a roll tap.
 

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Where can I buy shrink wrap? Is it a Home Depot item? Now I've got to look up some YouTube videos!

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You have to go to a fishing store to get the right diameter shrink tubing/wrap. I know that Sav On Tackle and Chaeil Fishing Tackle has them in the LA area. You can also order online if you want to wait. Just search for "Shrink X-tube" and you will see plenty for sale.
 
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Hello Sir, Give me a call at (909) 218-3520 and I can help you out with the situation you have run into. My office hours are Monday thru Friday from 7:30 am until 4:00 pm.
 
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Hey Chuyg--read comments fron Bennett and Wahoodad....they are Okuma reps and say there are free parts from Okuma to fix your problem and you wont have to cut or modify anything/!!
 
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I went to the Okuma service center and unfortunately, I received the sad news that my rod is too skinny! Sad, but true! Lol!
I am a huge fan of Okuma service and Edward took a look at my problem. The brackets I have on my reels are already the ones that would allow for the smallest rod diameter. I will not be cutting anything on my reels/bracket assemblies, tho. Edward and I discussed some different options to get the gear to work, so I feel good about everything. Edward and the Okuma service dept is TOP NOTCH!
Rather than rewrap the rod handle or add on some extra shrink wrap, I will be apply some felt to the inside of the bracket. It seems to be working out just fine. I appreciate everyone's advice! Thanks!
 
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Just be careful if you are using any material that would absorb water and not dry out. It is going to corrode the bracket over time. Maybe try some closed cell foam or coat the bracket with epoxy or something to seal the surface from direct water contact. You might be better off adding shrink wrap to the rod handle in just the area where you plan to put the reel clamp. You can do multiple layers if needed.

If you know a person with 3D printer, you may be able to print a plastic insert to take up the gap and still fit the bracket. Good luck.
 
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ChuyG

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Just be careful if you are using any material that would absorb water and not dry out. It is going to corrode the bracket over time. Maybe try some closed cell foam or coat the bracket with epoxy or something to seal the surface from direct water contact. You might be better off adding shrink wrap to the rod handle in just the area where you plan to put the reel clamp. You can do multiple layers if needed.

If you know a person with 3D printer, you may be able to print a plastic insert to take up the gap and still fit the bracket. Good luck.
That's great advice. I was going to use felt, but now I'm going to reconsider.