Advice on 2nd Setup

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  1. Kopfjager

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    Greetings all! Been lurking around for a while, and decided it's time for my first post! My name is Nick, and I have been fishing on and off for the better part of my 32 years. A little bit of everything... Light trout and bass stuff in the Kern River and lakes around Bakersfield, and rock fishing here and there out of Morro Bay and Port San Luis. Well last year I got bit, and plan on doing a lot more this year!

    I have purchased my first saltwater setup already, which consists of an Okuma SCT 701H 7' 25-40, paired with a Penn Fathom 25N 2-speed lever drag. That being said, it's bonus time and right before the Fred Hall show here in Bakersfield, so I'll be looking for another setup! Any recommendations, or ideas on better pairings for the rod and reel I already have? I want to try and keep it around $500, and will be doing some rockfishing out of Morrow and Ventura/Oxnard/Dana Pt., but am really wanting to do a lot more tuna and dorado fishing this year, with plans for at least one 1.5 day trip into Baja this year.

    I appreciate your help, and look forward to hearing what you guys think!
     
  2. SouthBayKiller

    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Hey Nick,

    The rod you have for your 25nld2 seems to be a little too light for really getting the most out of that reel's capabilities.

    I would suggest looking into getting a heavier rod for it, and also getting a smaller lighter reel for the rod you already have.

    For your average 1.5 day trip a 25nld2 should work well as a 40lb reel, bumped to 50 even in a pinch.

    Something like a Fathom 15 filled with 50lb braid and fish 20-30lb topshots with your okuma rod could really fill in nicely as a lighter rig, and also with the braid make a nice rockfishing rig as well if you wanted.

    Seems like you are off to a good start!
     
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    A good 20-25# setup like a Pro Gear V22 or 32. Good quality for the money and that would leave you $300 for a rod. Charkbait has them with free braid right now. Then you could put your 2 speed on a heavier rod and fish braid with topshot of your choice.

    My .02
     
  4. hawkplayer32

    hawkplayer32 I'd rather be fishing.

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    Pick up a lighter rig. Something like a Daiwa saltist 20 and a Calstar 800XL is a perfect 15-30lb setup.
     
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    kuyamonster I only wishes to catch some fishes...

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    Stick with a star drag reel for now and like mentioned above, pop a lighter 20-25 lb. reel on that Spiral Carbon Okuma rod and use it as your live bait rig "go to" rig. (I like their construction) On 3/4 to 1.5 days boats you'll most likely be using it the most. I have a Daiwa Saltist 20 and tricked out SLoSH 30 as my lighter 20-25 lb.setups. Look into a Torium 16 or 20, solid reels. Or stay in the Penn family if you like with the Fathom 15 or 25 star drags. Of course your Fathom 2 speed will now need a new stick, something that handles a solid 30-40+ lbs. A few options would be: Seeker 6470, CalStar's 700 series Grafighters, Phenix 660H or 700H, etc. Have fun shopping and welcome to the BloodyDecks madness...
     
  6. arenpilav41

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    You have a very solid 30lb setup. Next, I would want something a little bit lighter. I would get a Fathom 15 Star drag as your next reel, or an avet SX if you want a shiny leverdrag. That can fish 15 20 and 25lb leader no problem. I fish mine on a seeker blue lightning inshore series 8' rated 12-25lb. It is an amazing combo, perfect for bass, shallow water rockfish, and even for fishing kelp paddies offshore. I have it filled with 50lb spectra, and enough room on top for 25-50 yards of 15-25lb mono. Love that combo!

    After you get this 15-25lb combo, your gnna want a solid 40lb outfit. Your fathom 25NLD2 fishes 40lb perfectly, but you need a beefier rod if you decide to do that. And, you'll need a replacement 30lb reel. In my opinion, for a 25-30lb reel, nothing beats an Avet MXL single speed. But, theres a lot of options out there.
    -Aren
     
  7. Kopfjager

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    Tons of great information here! I appreciate everyone's input! So... my thoughts are to get maybe an Avet SX to put on my Okuma (is the MC worth it?), and I'm liking the Phenix Black Diamond 700H to throw the Fathom on. Thoughts?
     
  8. ironslinger.805

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    Stick with the Penn line.. a fathom 12 or 15 star drag, has tons more drag than an SX, plus it's cheaper, all a plus if you don't mind it being made in China. As for the phenix 700H super mega yes! I own one and recently paired with a fathom 30LD2 that I'm itching to get wet.

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    I use my fth25nld2 on a psw760h so the 700h would be right there. I have the SX but much prefer my MXJ. The MXJ is a little bit narrower but taller and just feels better in my hand. I have 20# on the SX and 25# on the MXJ, both with spectra backing. For fishing bait the MC isn't worth it,
     
  10. Let em eat 74

    Let em eat 74 Well-Known "Member"

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    I like your decisions for both, but I prefer a star drag for the smaller reel in that line class instead of the Avet. Understand that is just my preference, the SX is indeed a good choice. You are on the right track now.
     
  11. SouthBayKiller

    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Stick with a star drag for the lighter reel, much easier to cast and maintain. Also much lighter spool for lighter baits. Also much more drag than an SX. Avets are nice reels, but for a small bait reel you cannot go wrong with a modern star drag.
     

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