85 Outrage Rehab

acefuture

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Apr 3, 2019
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Gonna have to wait til next week. Cabo first!

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acefuture

@acecraftco
Apr 3, 2019
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550
Costa Mesa, CA
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Ace
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When sanding, I would avoid going any deeper than the gel coat. I would not wan to thin out the glass. They recommend using a horizontal sander to avoid making the hull less flat. The problem is they require a lot of air.

Started sanding with 100 on the orbital. Stopped once I reached glass. I don’t planning on getting to green glass anywhere but would rather take the gel coat down 1/16” than use filler. I got it all sanded down, and once the rain stops and I have sun, I’ll start fairing. I got the transom done today and it’s looking really good.

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karlow

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Wait we messed something.
Where is the fish report?
Last night I did a light sand on the bottom in prep for a fresh coat of bottom paint.
Self ablative bottom paint does not seem to stay on the bottom very well. It seems like you can wipe it of by hand! It rubs off like charcoal. After a couple of years the bottom looked like crap again.
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acefuture

@acecraftco
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Got fairing compound laid down on the exterior of the hull and splash well. I started with west systems 407 and really just didn’t like the way it cured. No matter what ratio, tempature, or timing I couldn’t get rid of these little tiny pin holes. So I ended up ordering quikfair and I really like this stuff. Mixes well, lays down well, and sands well. Going to longboard the hull and then finish the interior

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karlow

Twins 2017
Apr 29, 2004
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karl
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20' skippy Topless /17' whaler Wet Ride (sold) /18' Outrage
So you decided to pass on that wet sanding thing? It looks like you will get another chance this week!

Bondo makes a putty for those pinholes it comes in a tube and requires no mixing. I think they are caused by air bubbles in your mix.

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acefuture

@acecraftco
Apr 3, 2019
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Bondo makes a putty for those pinholes it comes in a tube and requires no mixing. I think they are caused by air bubbles in your mix.

Bondo expands when exposed to water so if I used that as a fulfilled it would potentially ruin the paint. The quikfair is a micro ballon filled epoxy that really goes on well so I think it’s the best call.

Hopefully I won’t get too much rain this week and I can knock out a ton
 

acefuture

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I feel like I’ve been sanding a grinding for 2 weeks straight. Got the exterior of the hull sanded. Ended up having to do a couple coats of fairing compound. Took down the big chunks with 100 grit, then blocked with 220, and long boarded with 400. It isn’t perfect, But feels and looks nice. I’ll lay a coat of primer down and see if there’s more that needs to be taken care off.

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Moving on to the interior. Decided on the location of the plumbing for the bait tank and cut out the stringer for it. There were some voids in the foam that I filled with epoxy and 404.

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First layer of CSM

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Then finished with a layer of 1708 and then topped with another layer of CSM

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Probably overkill with the amount of glass, but would rather it be too strong than not enough. I’ll grind it down and fair out the whole stringer before paint. Keepin it movin along!

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karlow

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20' skippy Topless /17' whaler Wet Ride (sold) /18' Outrage
All that sanding and patch work brings back memories!
FYI, I only sanded with the hungry 80 grit. That 200 and 400 is a waist of time. The primer and paint are thick IMO there is no reason to use the finer paper at that stage. You could consider wet sanding the primer with 200 prior to paint.
Are you going to flip her over and delete the bottom paint? That's also a whole lot of fun!
 

acefuture

@acecraftco
Apr 3, 2019
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Always changing
All that sanding and patch work brings back memories!
FYI, I only sanded with the hungry 80 grit. That 200 and 400 is a waist of time. The primer and paint are thick IMO there is no reason to use the finer paper at that stage. You could consider wet sanding the primer with 200 prior to paint.
Are you going to flip her over and delete the bottom paint? That's also a whole lot of fun!
The 100 on the orbital left swirls I just wasn't happy with. So I went lower. Probably a waste of time but oh well.

Not going to flip it. Going to go the old fashioned way and lay on my back. Really excited about that process..... Not getting rid of the bottom paint, there's currently 4 layers of it on. Going to take it down to the base layer, then roll on new bottom paint. I don't plan on leaving this boat in the water, but I may for a day or two from time to time.
 
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marlyn

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    The 100 on the orbital left swirls I just wasn't happy with. So I went lower. Probably a waste of time but oh well.

    Not going to flip it. Going to go the old fashioned way and lay on my back. Really excited about that process..... Not getting rid of the bottom paint, there's currently 4 layers of it on. Going to take it down to the base layer, then roll on new bottom paint. I don't plan on leaving this boat in the water, but I may for a day or two from time to time.
    Go to harbor freight and pick up one of the mechanics creepers so you can easily roll around on your back!
     

    acefuture

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    Well I checked the weather once, checked the weather twice, checked it a third time and said all clear until Monday. It was sunny and 70 at my place, So I decided to roll out the first coat of primer on the hull. Of course as soon as I finish the exterior of the hull, Armageddon decides to roll in... scrambled to get it covered and luckily it looks like it’s gonna skirt me (so far). The primer definitely shows the waviness in the hull more than the gel coat. But oh well. I think it’ll look pretty damn good when I’m done.

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    URN

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    I might make a tunnel like that to aid in drainage off the tank top. Also, where the fuel fill hose lays is a low spot where water holds. At least on my 25 whaler it does.
     

    acefuture

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    The interior continues. Sanded the boat with 80 grit. Grinded out all the deep crazing, and in some spots took it down to glass to make sure it was superficial and not a structure issue. Then hit everything with fairing compound. Will sand everything out with 220 and hit a primer coat soon. There were some spotty “patches” in the bow locker and other areas that I grinded out and addressed as well. The deck has a wave to it in the aft quarters but no soft spots. I drilled a few holes to double check for water logged foam but everything looked perfect so capped those off as well. Moving along

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    acefuture

    @acecraftco
    Apr 3, 2019
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    Nice progress! Did you use high build or start with 545?
    No I didn't. I used a TON of fairing compound so the boat was really smooth the begin with. My plan was to start with 545 and see what low spots I was working with, then go high build, then 545 before topcoat. But it looks so good with just one coat of 545 I decided to just do 3 coats of it and then top coat. The boat has wavyness in the hull sides and I knew that it wouldn't be perfect anyways so i'm just doing what I think looks best
     
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