82 OutRage Rehab

karlow

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I have been at this for months now. I tried talking myself out of dragging this home, but no. I guess I'm not that bright. I'm sure some of you wiser guys past on this one, and wondered where she went. That first pic is her good side. The plan was to get her on the water by Aug, and then by Sep. Well she is still dry so to speak. She was nothing if not ugly

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rancanfish

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Harold Head
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I'm going to watch this one. No where to go but up. I have been working on all the little bugs on my Outrage for months. Now I'm a couple weeks away.

My bud had to remind me how to eat an elephant....a bite at a time.

Just be sure to take a bite every day!
 
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karlow

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Those pics are from 4 months ago. There were lots of reasons to walk away, and few reason to drag it home. Currently I'm waiting for battery boxes, and grommets to mount the windshield. I installed cup holders the under gunnel rod holder, numbers, and the other 1/2 of the gunnel lights.

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karlow

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No end to the fun here boyz. I used epoxy and glass on some repairs and glass filled filler for others.

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karlow

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I'm sure dozens of people looked at and kept walking.
I fabed some fiberglass/ epoxy tubes to replace the brass one that had corroded to bits.
I had spent a bunch of time attempting to repair the inner wall in the splash well. You need a
good finish because the factory used O-rings to seal the brass tubes. With this approach, you make the tubes and epoxy them in place. They should never fail again. No special tools required no annealing brass or getting perfect rolled lip. I also did not have to remove the engine to install them.
I was successful at redoing the brass tubes on my 17 Whaler, but on that one the shape is less complex. On the Outrage none of the shapes are perpendicular.

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karlow

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I like that rig you got there Mike!
I used epoxy to fix the broken section in the the bow and the kitty hair for the cracks. The 80 grit is your friend. I used a little grinder for the prep work. On that clamped section you after it all set up, just wrap it in polyethylene sheet and clamp it. You can also use shipping tape. Its great stuff for all of you glass work. Nothing sticks to it! FYI for the epoxy repair, you have to use thickened epoxy for the filler. It's much harder to sand but 80 grit is your friend.
Yep, the trailer was also AFU, I replaced all the bunk hangers and the springs a bit of wire wheel work and cold zinc. That was great fun, I had to use my hot wrench on the spring hangers. I checked the bearings on the port side. They were A-OK

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karlow

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There was also some deck work to deal with. Here is a pic after I got her stripped down some. Guess what you find under the deck? A fuel tank with an extra 7 hole or so. It really helps to have an impact driver and a cherry picker for this part.

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karlow

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I spent weeks on the tank R&R. It took about a month to get the new one back from the shop.

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karlow

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I did a tank repair on my SkipJack once. I used the same method to get it out.On this one, after the flumes were gone, I cut the foam around the tank with my saws-all. I had tried the pressure washer, no love! How about fun with foam? If you do this one, make sure that you cut the foam very evenly and sand to size. it will save you a grip of work!

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karlow

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The floor repair was done with epoxy, and thickened epoxy (pink). You can uses food saver bag material to get a anti slip surface, but it is difficult to all of the surface voids out. After three passes or so I decided to live with the results. You can do one or two passes per day depending on ambient temp. I did not pull the old foam out of the locker, I just cleaned it up. From that last pic can see one of my problems. Note how much taller the fill neck is. Add that to a tank that's about 1/2" taller and I'm in trouble!

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karlow

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Note on the pic the difference in height of the fuel inlet on the new and old fuel tank, yep that is an issue. I did not notice it (or check it) until the tank was fully installed. My foam work is lumpy! I sealed the foam with waterproof rubber paint. You can see the fuel inlet is a bit higher in that last pic.

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flytie

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Cool deal. I like a good project. Keep it going!
 

karlow

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Oh, we r still looking at the past. I did the rattle can thing on the motor cover. Some patch work on the plastic parts done in epoxy and glass. Followed by primer wet sand and rattle time. It came out OK, but not great. I did that, the water pump, and the oil, the oil in the bottom end. I still have one of the cover latches that does not. I think the spring is too weak. I cleaned the engine and a bit of paint work. Lots of time for little odds and ends while waiting for the tank (about a month) but not enough!
She looks kind of nice in the nude. She looks a lot better now.There is always something, I forgot, the trim switch on the motor only works in one direction.

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karlow

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That paper towel is on the steering ram because the seals had failed. When I picked up the boat, I was told that the power trim would have to be repaired before I could use it. Wrong, it is OK. there is a bad switch on the motor. They must have confused it with the hydo steering. The repair kit was about $100 with the pin wrench. That repair took about an hour W/O bleeding the system. All of the wiring seems to be just hanging in there.

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Unassailable

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You happen to have a mold for that non-skid pattern or are you going to leave it as is for the patch job?
 

karlow

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Nope, you can use a food saver bag to produce an anti-skid surface. You need to place a board on it and maybe a sand bag on top. You want it flat, and even and void free. This was also in a bad spot to work on. after a few rounds my results were just so so and I just moved on. part of that section is textured and part is not. after the epoxy sets up you can just peal up the saver bag. It needs to blend into the rest of the non-slip surface with out sanding.

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Got it. I am fixing couple screws that were pulled from the gelcoat and don't want a void in the non-skid pattern so I was creating a mold as there is not one available in this type of pattern.
 

karlow

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There is also paint work, it did not come out that shinny. But its all good I got the paint from a friend and I'm liking the color.
It also works great with the anti-skid deck paint that I went with. It might not be the best choice. It is hot as hell working on it this last month. I know it was over a 100F but damm! It was like an oven on that deck.
 

karlow

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As for a mold, you might be able to make one from RTV.
You could try waxing a section of the floor 3 or 4 times and then spread some RTV on it with some type of backing. If it will peel off cleanly then you are golden. I would spry it down with silicon prior to using it. PET will not stick to anything, I'm not so sure about RTV.
 

karlow

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I almost did a decent job on the console and dash.
The throttle is crashing slightly on the bottom lip and into the fire extinguisher pocket. I should have spent more time getting the bottom of the panel straight.
Next I have to add the stern light solution. I don't have the OEM mount. It's also time to bleed the steering and determine if I attached it backward,

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karlow

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Bleeding the steering was no problem. I took about 20 min. I used stuff I had just lying around. The only real problem was the starboard side bleed screw. It did not want to open. I opened it three turns. Stuck wire in it, blasted it with brake cleaner. No love! After a few rounds and a bit of pressure it popped like a zit! Now its hard like a rock, passes the kick test, and has the same number of turns form lock to lock.
You bleed it just like the brakes on your car!

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karlow

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Today I had a few hours to get something done. I installed the FF pickup, the bait pump, and the UW lights. I started testing the electrical system. The run lights are OK, The fuel gauge light is not. I have too much light on the deck, and the compass. The trim switch on the motor is half dead, the one on the throttle is OK. I built a bracket and mounted the atf all around light. i hooked up the wiring. The good news is it works, the bad news is I have managed to install the diode backward so run or anchor light switched turn on the run lights not the aft light.Its all better now, but it much easier to work on the panel prior to the install. I fixed the missing lamp and wire the builge pump list night. I need to test ans setup the finder, install seats & fuel, but Im thinking there are YT calling my name!

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