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flickfish

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I was on this trip. These pictures don’t do it justice. There was a couple of times the AA was so close I was honestly worried my wahoo bomb would hit it, or grab one of their troll lines. The Supreme was trolling with us the day prior and never pulled this bullshit. This wasn’t a one off - it was hours of cutting us off or coming so close off our stern the deckhands were worried they’d run over our troll lines.
 
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Because he didn't need too. As you know. Wasn't desperate. Frank and Roy training with their numbers. Few can last


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I have been riding the RP for many years with Roy Rose as captain. In my opinion, the AA captian knew Roy wasn't Skipper due to the funeral service of his 1st wife Joanne. This is not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th + time the AA has trailed too close to the Alpha Boat. Call it what want but it's a big ocean....find your own fish. Attached is a photo of Big D, Eddie "Bomb" and Derin Kochis detaching the AA's rod and reel after getting too close to our hooked kite fish. 5+ years ago. And magically it keeps happening.

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norcaltunaclub

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I have been riding the RP for many years with Roy Rose as captain. In my opinion, the AA captian knew Roy wasn't Skipper due to the funeral service of his 1st wife Joanne. This is not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th + time the AA has trailed too close to the Alpha Boat. Call it what want but it's a big ocean....find your own fish. Attached is a photo of Big D, Eddie "Bomb" and Derin Kochis detaching the AA's rod and reel after getting too close to our hooked kite fish. 5+ years ago. And magically it keeps happening.

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Because he didn't need too. As you know. Wasn't desperate. Frank and Roy training with their numbers. Few can last


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Bingo! and that meme sums it up.......
 
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norcaltunaclub

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I have been riding the RP for many years with Roy Rose as captain. In my opinion, the AA captian knew Roy wasn't Skipper due to the funeral service of his 1st wife Joanne. This is not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th + time the AA has trailed too close to the Alpha Boat. Call it what want but it's a big ocean....find your own fish. Attached is a photo of Big D, Eddie "Bomb" and Derin Kochis detaching the AA's rod and reel after getting too close to our hooked kite fish. 5+ years ago. And magically it keeps happening.

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Oh and I remember the note that Deron wrote as well........call it what you want, but it's a pattern.
 
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Steve K

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There will be no resolution here, no satisfaction. I should think that if there’s anything more to come of this, it will be up to the captains. Let it go…
 
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I have been riding the RP for many years with Roy Rose as captain. In my opinion, the AA captian knew Roy wasn't Skipper due to the funeral service of his 1st wife Joanne. This is not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th + time the AA has trailed too close to the Alpha Boat. Call it what want but it's a big ocean....find your own fish. Attached is a photo of Big D, Eddie "Bomb" and Derin Kochis detaching the AA's rod and reel after getting too close to our hooked kite fish. 5+ years ago. And magically it keeps happening.

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So it looks like the AA has a back-up rod attached to the rod and buoy, and you want the AA to dictate where their fish is going to go?

Yes, it's a big ocean and the Rocks is a tiny portion of the ocean where fish congregate and you want other boats to stay clear of you just because you got there first? You want a spot..........anchor up.

This shit happens all the time with all the boats. Why bring it up?
 
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jer dog

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So it looks like the AA has a back-up rod attached to the rod and buoy, and you want the AA to dictate where their fish is going to go?

Yes, it's a big ocean and the Rocks is a tiny portion of the ocean where fish congregate and you want other boats to stay clear of you just because you got there first? You want a spot..........anchor up.

This shit happens all the time with all the boats. Why bring it up?
yep it was tough fishing there at the time , and the A A only caught 15 Hoo while the
were there , and out there is only one ALPHA spot.
 
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norcaltunaclub

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So it looks like the AA has a back-up rod attached to the rod and buoy, and you want the AA to dictate where their fish is going to go?

Yes, it's a big ocean and the Rocks is a tiny portion of the ocean where fish congregate and you want other boats to stay clear of you just because you got there first? You want a spot..........anchor up.

This shit happens all the time with all the boats. Why bring it up?
I can answer this......I've ridden the RP a lot over the years and only one boat in my own personal experiences has repeated what was outlined in the quoted thread. When the buoy picture was taken, we were fishing all by ourselves and AA came rolling up and dropped anchor in our starboard side chum line. They were so close I could have casted a wahoo jig into their bow. Roy asked them to move and respect the distance rule since they were too close to us and they ignored his request. Shortly thereafter they hooked a fish in our chum line and this was the result. Because this happens with this same operation time and time again is exactly why it was brought up. Plus I have never seen this type of behavior or have seen spectra wrap around the front of the wheelhouse from another angler standing on the bow of another LR vessel. I've been LR fishing for 25+ years and never seen this from any other operation. Just my two cents.....
 
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Pescador Paul

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I think the AA was just trying to get close enough to say, "You'll love fishing on the American Angler."
 
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jer dog

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Tight knit code boats picking on the same wolf pack of Wahoo far from home, one was just in a better position this time
my friend was on the A A , and he showed this thread to A couple of other guys on
his Trip, and they say Johnaton and Ray worked together for years and are good friends, so they said this is all BULLSHIT .
 
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fishkilr

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my friend was on the A A , and he showed this thread to A couple of other guys on
his Trip, and they say Johnaton and Ray worked together for years and are good friends, so they said this is all BULLSHIT .
Gee..what a shock!
 
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