80# Rod Suggestions

Chango3

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    Looking for a rod to pair my Okuma Cavalla 12ii, with 500 yds of 80# Jbraid, up with. Want something in the 7.6-8 ft range, and I was considering the Phenix Axis 780xh or the 7802xh, before I choose one of these I want to get some other suggestions and knowledge.
     

    hucklongfin

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    Topshot? The x3h is probably the way to go for 80#. I use the phd760xh for 50#, phd700x2h for 60# and the phd700x3h for 80#.
     
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    hucklongfin

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    I haven’t seen any 40-100 rod that‘s a 100# stick... or even a strong 80#. The Axis rods are graphite composites that feel a lot like Calstar Grafighters. My 700x2h has an Okuma Mak 15T SEa and the 700x3h a Mak 16 SEa. My other heavier rods are UC’s... Tilefish/Predator/Centaur/Viper/Invictus for 50/60/80/100/130.

    The Okuma pch741xxh would be probably be good. I have a 741xxxh that I use for 100# and it’s solid.
     
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    migelito

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    I don't know if I'd use 80# leader on the cavalla 12. I don't have any experience with the cavalla but I wouldnt fish 80 on my andros 12. 50# maybe pushing it to 60#. You want to have at least 25# of drag at strike and be able to handle a few good runs without frying your drags. The Phenix Axis 7802xh would be a good choice for that. The 780 3xh is good for 100 or even 80. I used the HAX780x3H earlier this year with 25# of drag and it felt pretty good
     
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    All my Axis rods are 8'2" ...I use them for bait sticks...softer tip..I fish them on low end of rating..e.g. 30-80lb is my 50, 40-100lb is my 60
    My Black Diamonds are all 9' jig sticks again fished on lower ends of rating even more so... e.g. 30-80lb is my 40lb surface iron stick
    All of these double as a bait stick.. all have 75yrds of mono top shot with Trinidad A's
    My Black Diamond Hybrids.. most rigid.. my go to for yoyo & rubberband weight bait sticks for bigger and deeper fish..my 30-80lb 8' is for 50 with another Talica 12ii ; my 7'6" 40-100lb is fished 60 on a Talica 16ii
    I've had a lot of Phenix rods...bought and sold until I found what I like...sold all 7'2" Axis rods and 7' + 8' Black Diamonds ..

    For 80-100# I have an Axis..it is the 8' 60-130lb rail rod custom acid wrapped. ..

    This is what I like... some might think is totally wrong...
    Fish what you are comfortable with....not what someone else tells you to fish
    Mike
     
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    surfgoose

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    Axis makes fine rods, I have several and like them. You should also check out the Graftech line. I really like my GRR 78 XXXH, actually a little less money than the other fine brands. It is rated 130-150 which I don't believe for a minute, but it is a really really strong 80 to 100 rod which is very light in the hand and puts a serious hurt on a fish.
     
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    Chango3

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    I don't know if I'd use 80# leader on the cavalla 12. I don't have any experience with the cavalla but I wouldnt fish 80 on my andros 12. 50# maybe pushing it to 60#. You want to have at least 25# of drag at strike and be able to handle a few good runs without frying your drags. The Phenix Axis 7802xh would be a good choice for that. The 780 3xh is good for 100 or even 80. I used the HAX780x3H earlier this year with 25# of drag and it felt pretty good
    Good thing the Cavalla has 28# at strike
     
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    2Rotten

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    I have a 8'0" UC RGP Terminator paired with a Penn Fathom 40 nld2 loaded with 80# braid love it light powerful great 60/80# stick. Also have a 7'6" UC Centaur loads of power doesn't cast a sardine as well as the Terminator and it is comparatively heavy. Strong 80/light 100# stick.

    Between the 2 I would say the Terminator is a better pairing with your Cavalla 12ii. I have a Mak 16 SEa with 100# braid on my Centaur.
     
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    pukahd

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    Leaning towards the UC CX76 Raptor


    I’d say the 76 Raptor is a solid 60# rail rod. I have it. For 80#, Raptor seems a bit soft unless your reel and drag has the stated +28lbs of drag and still have freespool . That’s why many suggest a solid 80# rail rod like the Centaur and a larger reel to handle max drag.

    With the size of the fish around and the amount of $$ to get on a boat nowdays, there’s no room for equipment failures. These big fish are no joke as you could be playing around with 40# BF and next thing the 100-200# come rolling through. They will destroy subpar equipment, connections and your body.

    My tackle shop buddy who hooked a giant flat falling with a 16 size reel got destroyed and eventually broke off. He vowed to never fish a 16 size for flatfalling again. Your Cavalla 12 size reels is all you have for 80# then still get a solid 80# rod. 80# spectra, good connections and a tight drag you’ll be fine.
     
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    Yellowtail Dan

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    I had a cavalla 12 that they sent me to replace a brand new Andros that froze up when Ken was filling it. I fished it and it's a nice light body reel built for 30lb to 50lb on the high end great for local fishing but not one I would have been comfortable with if fish over 100lbs were an option. I thought I'd use mine a s a yoyo set up but decided instead to sell it and went with a Torque 30ld2 instead

    If you're going to fish 80lb spectra you need to get a rod that's built to handle it because that reel isn't. The UC 76 Centaur is a great 80lb rod and will do the lifting for you on the rail. I have one and fish a Mak 16 on it. Keep in mind you may have 80lb on the reel but that reel won't have the power to move a bigger fish even paired with the right kind of rod
     
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    Chango3

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    I had a cavalla 12 that they sent me to replace a brand new Andros that froze up when Ken was filling it. I fished it and it's a nice light body reel built for 30lb to 50lb on the high end great for local fishing but not one I would have been comfortable with if fish over 100lbs were an option. I thought I'd use mine a s a yoyo set up but decided instead to sell it and went with a Torque 30ld2 instead

    If you're going to fish 80lb spectra you need to get a rod that's built to handle it because that reel isn't. The UC 76 Centaur is a great 80lb rod and will do the lifting for you on the rail. I have one and fish a Mak 16 on it. Keep in mind you may have 80lb on the reel but that reel won't have the power to move a bigger fish even paired with the right kind of rod
    Thanks for the info, but where does this reel lack the power to move a bigger fish?
     
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    hucklongfin

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    Have you tried the Cavalla 12 with 28# drag yet to see what it's capable of? When the rubber meets the road most of the mfg's overstate their top end drag capability. It needs to be smooth and hold up to long runs at that drag too and not just fade out after one run.
     
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    Yellowtail Dan

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    Thanks for the info, but where does this reel lack the power to move a bigger fish?
    From the handle, gear ratio and frame strength it’s not built for that kind of Power. If you want the same size type reel for that find a Mak 15 or VISX 12 for heavy frame reels or go with a Penn Torque or Fathom 40nld2.l as lighter frame options. The Torque 40nld2 is perfect for what you’re looking for and the Fathom will work good as well

    like I said I think it’s a good light 40-50lb reel but 80lb it’s not a good option. If it’s what you have, fish it I hope it works
     
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