Offshore 8/19/22 North 9 / South 9

stuman

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Fished Thursday at the Coronado Islands. There was a good morning YT bite near bird shit rock - 5-10 boats hooking fish on the drift. At 2 PM - in the wind - we headed west of North Island and found acres of bird schools above puddlers. We couldn't get them to bite.

Friday we left late to the north Nine. In the late AM we found a little bit of the puddling tuna about 7 miles west of Point Loma. There was a lot of boat traffic pushing it down by trolling Spreaders and Madmacs. We continued west and found some paddies holding dorado and large areas of free swimming dorado. Saw a glimpse of 50-100 bft and spots of smaller yft in this area as well. In the afternoon to evening the main area of tuna was below the border. We could see huge flocks of birds with five boats chasing them just south of the border.

The Nomad Riptide 150 with a treble hook worked ok on the dorado and a small YFT - it's very small light lure. The clear Madscad hooked a yft but the single hooks pulled out. We need to change the aft hook to a treble and see if it swims. Also hooked dorado on the snipers and JRI surface iron - which was sketchy when the fish jumped.

Here is a DFW question. If I have more than 2 dorado per angler, is it legal for my boat's track to show that I went into Mexico to fish? All my dorado were caught in US water but I didn't want to cross the border to chase the tuna.
 
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mhanson59hb

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    This 👆👆👆👆

    Don't give 'em any excuse. Congrats on the dodos!
     
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  • Dec 11, 2011
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    I’ve only fished mex. waters once and was checked back at the dock that same day and was told they were looking at US regs and limits unless we had fish that weren’t allowed in the US but could be taken in mexico, such as black seabass and some groupers, then they would investigate
     
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    mhanson59hb

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    I got this off a website. As you know, the limit for dorado in Mexico is two fish. This is in possession. I couldn't find any thing specific about traveling between US/Mex waters.

    However, the general rule with Mexican authorities is it depends on who you talk to, what day you talk to them and if they got laid last night or not. Anything can and will happen.

    The safe option is two, or don't go into Mex waters!

    Good questions, tho! Have a great day and good luck on your next trip!

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    If you are going to be fishing in Mexico we have gathered some helpful tips to keep in mind! Mexico has very strict regulations and laws for fishing!

    When operating a vessel in Mexican waters that has fishing equipment in it, Mexico requires that you hold a fishing license for everybody aboard the boat, regardless of age and whether they are fishing or not. A fishing license is not required if fishing by land.
    • Only one rod or line with hook is permitted in the water, per person, however there is no restriction regarding the number of replacement items.
    • A fishing license allows you to capture only fin fish. A fishing license does NOT allow you to capture any other mollusks or crustaceans, and their capture by anyone is strictly prohibited. Totuava, turtles and marine mammals are under protection of the Ministry and may not be captured at anytime, at all. This is illegal.
    • If capturing bottom fish, up to four hooks on a vertical line may be used.
    • The use of electric reels is restricted to disabled fishermen only, after written authorization from the Ministry.


    There are also Daily Bag Limits and other regulations for Fishing in Mexican Water

    • Each fisherman is permitted to catch up to ten (10) fish per day, with no more than five (5) fish of any one species. In addition, anglers are subject to the following limits: No more than one (1) billfish. No more than two (2) tarpon, dorado or roosterfish. Fish that are in the one fish or two fish categories count as five fish of the total ten fish daily bag limit. The maximum daily bag limit for underwater marine or freshwater fishing is five (5) fish. In fresh waters, anglers are permitted to take up to five (5) fish per day.
    • The limit on inland bodies of water, such as rivers, lakes, dams and so on, is five (5) fish per day, whether of a single species or in combination.
    • The limit for underwater fishing is limited to five (5) per day, using rubber band or spring type harpoons, and only while skin diving.
    • There is no limit to the “catch and release” practice as long as the fish that exceed the bag limit be returned to their environment in good survival condition!! Remember! GOOD SURVIVAL CONDITION.
    • Where sport fishing is conducted from boats out at sea for longer that three days, the bag limit will be the equivalent of three times the amounts mentioned above.
    • Mexican law prohibits the taking of abalone, lobster, shrimp, pismo clams, cabrilla, totuava, oysters, and sea turtles. Anyone wishing to purchase any of these species to take into the United States must first obtain a form from the Mexican Government Fish Commission; only the Oficinas de Pesca located within Mexico provides this form. All purchases of these species must be made at designated public markets or fishing cooperatives.


    Watch out for some of these Mexico Fishing Violations!



    • It is illegal to capture and maintain alive any fish for ornamental purposes.
    • It is prohibited to receive any financial gain from the fish/product obtained through sport-fishing.
    • It is prohibited to dump litter, trash or substances that harm the aquatic lora or fauna, whether it is on lakes, river banks, shores or any oceanic waters.
    • It is prohibited to collect shells, corals, sea anemones and snails, or to disturb the original ecosystem environment.
    • It is prohibited to use artificial lighting to attract large quantities of fish.
    • It is prohibited to discharge any kind of firearms in Mexican waters.
    • Fish that are caught under a sport-fishing license may not be filleted aboard the vessel from which it was caught.


    This is to serve as helpful tips and information! Laws & Regulation are subject to change without notice! We do recommend that you contact Mexico’s National Aquaculture and Fishing Commission (CONAPESCA) for up to date information! www.conapescasandiego.org



    We, along with many boaters and Mexican Officials strongly recommend Mexican Boat Insurance to protect you against the unforeseen and avoid any problems with Mexican Officials that might ask for Fishing License and Mexican Insurance for your Vessel.



    Purchase your Mexican Watercraft Insurance at www.InsureMeWC.com and give your crew and yourself peace of mind!
     
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    queenfish

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    Just erase your tracks and say you aren't exactly sure where you were.
    With the rules and regs that exist in California.; they can always find something to write you up on.
    Plus, half of the wardens have different interpretations anyway.
     
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    Mateo el Flaco

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    How can CA DFG enforce a limit from another country?? I would take that one to court. There are no possession fish like cowcod but limits would be a different thing.
     
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    Dbado1

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    How can CA DFG enforce a limit from another country?? I would take that one to court. There are no possession fish like cowcod but limits would be a different thing.
    It's the same when deer hunting in Mexico. The US wildlife Dept. , when crossing back over, is much more up tight than the Mexican officials. The US G&F officer told me that it is a cooperative effort between the two countries. My comment was that the US seems to be doing most of the policing for Mexico. We've hunted south of the border many times and the biggest hassle is always from the US G&F when coming back.
    As an aside, the G&F Dept. in AZ has (over the years) become very anti hunting. They call themselves "conservation officers". They do not like hunters being successful. I believe, after multiple encounters, that they really believe that they are in the business of "conservation" and that they do not like hunters killing "their" game. A couple of years ago while hunting Pronghorn I asked an officer, who was checking our tags, if there were any good bucks in the southern end of the unit and he bruskly told me to do my own scouting. When I was growing up here, the officers were always helpful and happy for you when you were successful. Not anymore.
     
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    It's the same when deer hunting in Mexico. The US wildlife Dept. , when crossing back over, is much more up tight than the Mexican officials. The US G&F officer told me that it is a cooperative effort between the two countries. My comment was that the US seems to be doing most of the policing for Mexico. We've hunted south of the border many times and the biggest hassle is always from the US G&F when coming back.
    As an aside, the G&F Dept. in AZ has (over the years) become very anti hunting. They call themselves "conservatikon officers". They do not like hunters being successful. I believe, after multiple encounters, that they really believe that they are in the business of "conservation" and that they do not like hunters killing "their" game. A couple of years ago while hunting Pronghorn I asked an officer, who was checking our tags, if there were any good bucks in the southern end of the unit and he bruskly told me to do my own scouting. When I was growing up here, the officers were always helpful and happy for you when you were successful. Not anymore.
    Different generation these days. All those kids watching talking deer and crying for the toaster are now policing the public.
    There’s little room for harvest and no such thing as a working animal this side of the country
     
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    SSUfish

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    If you're genuinely curious, it might be worth a call to either homeland security/sd harbor police/or the USCG - if memory serves, there's a catch form from some entity that we're supposed to fill out with our catch as well as check in with any time returning from Mexico.

    It has been years since I've heard about it, but trust me homeland security sneaking up on you at full speed after fishing the islands overnight was a puckering experience. Better to ask the questions ahead of time.
     
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    maxum

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    Whats the limit on Dorado in US waters? I'm reading conflicting info saying either 2 fish no less than 22 inches and another saying 10 fish?
     
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    FJBilly

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    If you're genuinely curious, it might be worth a call to either homeland security/sd harbor police/or the USCG - if memory serves, there's a catch form from some entity that we're supposed to fill out with our catch as well as check in with any time returning from Mexico.

    It has been years since I've heard about it, but trust me homeland security sneaking up on you at full speed after fishing the islands overnight was a puckering experience. Better to ask the questions ahead of time.
     
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