50# jig reel

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  1. AWilliams

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    Hey guys...what are you guys liking for a 50# jig reel for a 9' rod? I have a Penn 25n that I fish 40# on. Can I fish 50# on it? I hooked up today on a sportie on a BIG Yellowtail...over 35# and my drag screamed and it peeled half my 40# line with 13# of drag....and I lost it at the gaff. Thinking of stepping up to 50# line. The dogs were thick and I've lost them to those bastards...lol. I need to get them in quicker.

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    Sounds like you should throw some braid onto the reel under your mono topshot
     
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    I do... 65#
     
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    I use a Saltist BG 35 with my BTG 90J and feel comfortable with a 50# top shot.
     
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    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    it can do it, the 30 is a we bit better though.
     
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    Just up the leader to 50# and bump the drag up to 17#.
     
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    Pro Gear V52, Penn Torque/Fathom 30, Daiwa Saltiga/Saltist 40 - presuming you want a topshot that is a full cast length (70+yds)
     
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    If you lost it at gaff I don't see how your line test was the issue? You got it to the boat...something else happened to lose the fish. Unless the line broke or got chewed through at the boat?

    Wanting the 50# to horse em in before the dogs gets to them on the other hand does make sense. But you should be able to do that with 40# too and you still might lose it at the boat for whatever reason.
     
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    40lb izor is pretty tough to break. Its basically 60lb IGFA line.
     
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    I didn't lose the fish due to knot or line failure but with 40 lb line Im limited to about 13 lb of drag. Bumping up to 50 lb line effectively ups my drag pressure and I can get them in quicker due to the sea lions. Don't get me wrong I was not babying the fish I was on it trying to get him in and do not believe that I pulled too hard. I have in the past though not been able to get the fish in quick enough due to the sea lions.

    Now on the other hand at what point does too much drag pressure pulling against their runs rip it out of their mouth? There has to be a line somewhere
     
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    Once you are into the top-shot then you should be able to crank up the drag and horse them in the rest of the way. The only reason you need the 3:1 ratio of line vs drag is for when you are well down into the spool and the lever-arm (i.e. distance from center of reel to where the line is coming off the spool) is reduced. The reduced lever arm means more force on the line is required before the drag slips. Since you are using a 25N (thin and tall), this is more pronounced than a reel that is short and wide. Even right now, you could theoretically safely crank the drag up to 20lb+ at strike (assuming the mono line and rod take out some of the initial force of the hit) but would then need to back it off as line is peeled off if you did not stop the fist dead in its tracks (not that I would recommend this, but you theoretically could).
     
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    You're not limited to 13 lbs with 40 lb test. That's just the rule of thumb setting to cover you for when you have a lot of line out. Drag pressure is set with a full spool, but that drag pressure increases as more line is let out and the effective spool diameter decreases. If you set it to 13 lbs full, when you have half a spool left, the drag pressure will be about 26 lbs.

    At the end of the battle when you're close, you don't have to worry about that. You just need to button down the drag and horse it in. I usually thumb the spool to pull the fish into gaffing range (some guys will jump all over me and say never to do this, but it's what I do). I do that mainly because I've done most of my fishing with star drag reels, and I like being able to instantly take my thumb off the spool if the fish decides it has 1 last run in it once it sees the gaff. Harder to back the drag off that quickly on a lever drag from Full or Sunset back to Strike.

    And, like other people have stated, most 40 lb test line will break well above 40 lbs anyway.
     
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